"PACKER POISED FOR FREE AGENT PURSUITS

[Anti-Polar Bear]

Maybe that is why he ran out of town faster than Joe Mixon after clocking that chick.

Regardless, Dorsey built the current team in Kansas City, you know, that team that made the playoffs this season. And there's no such thing as cap hell in this day and age of soaring revenues and titanic TV contracts. Sure, it appears like the Chiefs are currently over the cap at this moment in space-time, but all they have to do is get rid of game manager Alex Smith, and they'll be out of cap hell in no time.

[mraynrand]

That's just silly. You don't think Randy Moss or TO could still get deep? 44 is old, sure, but athletes don't just go from premier to nothing over night. They could easily make a roster, but they both have plenty of money that additional traction on the body isn't worth the salary they'd earn.

‘Overnight’

[hoosier]

If a 44 year old (former) athlete could make an NFL roster at a skill position today, we would be seeing at least one of them out there. You can slow down the effects of aging on maximal heart rate, VO2max, loss of muscle mass and declining recovery ability, but you cannot stop it. But that aside the idea is just silly. If Owens were to make an NFL roster today he would either be attempting a comeback after seven years of NFL inactivity (and about 14 years past his physical prime) or he would have been on an NFL roster for twenty two years at a skill position, which means he would probably have had at least three career-ending injuries by now and would be on his second set of artificial knees.

[mraynrand]

... attempting a comeback after seven years of NFL inactivity.

'overnight'

[call_me_ishmael]

Meh, I still think Michael Jordan at 50-something could beat 2/3 of the NBA in one-on-one, and I still think Brett Favre, in the right situation, could sit back and sling the football as well as anyone.

Just look at Brady.

Maybe sustained performance is not there, but I think most of these studs can get the fast twitch firin' up again and make some big plays.

[BZnDallas]

What do yall think about David Irving? Rumors in Dallas are saying the Cowboys may place a 2nd round tender on him. I'd consider our second rounder for him. He's really young and really explosive.

[woodbuck27]

Math is a little off Woody. TO played 157 games over that timeframe you posted. So 127 TDs over 157 games is .808 TDs/game. Still a real good stretch by a WR though.

The comment by Partial is way off. TO is 44 now, he couldn't even sniff the league at this point.

" TO played 157 games over that timeframe you posted. So 127 TDs over 157 games is .808 TDs/game. " Cheesehead Craig

Comment woodbuck27:

Your correct.

I'll add this here as I was interested in when if ever Terrell Owens would make the HOF based on his previous two years of eligibility and negative results; what happened that he did get the approval vote this year?

Here's a Story on that:

https://www.ninersnation.com/2018/2/5/16971514/hall-of-fame-results-2018-terrell-owens-debate-length

Terrell Owens debate was longest of the day for Hall of Fame voters

I wonder what changed people’s minds in year three?

By: David Fucillo@davidfucillo ... Feb 5, 2018, 6:45am PST

[call_me_ishmael]

What do yall think about David Irving? Rumors in Dallas are saying the Cowboys may place a 2nd round tender on him. I'd consider our second rounder for him. He's really young and really explosive.

I would love it. It sounds like he is a rising star. I doubt they will do it due to the financial realities of the game, though.

[woodbuck27]

What do yall think about David Irving? Rumors in Dallas are saying the Cowboys may place a 2nd round tender on him. I'd consider our second rounder for him. He's really young and really explosive.

This has to be a serious consideration:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Irving_(American_football)

" ...On March 6, 2017, Irving re-signed with the Cowboys.[11] On May 23, 2017, it was announced that Irving would be suspended four games due to violating the league's performance enhancing drugs policy.[12] His appeal was denied and was officially suspended the first four games of the 2017 season.[13]

Despite missing the first four games because of his suspension, and the final two because of a lingering concussion, Irving still accrued seven sacks on the year.[14] ..."

[Cheesehead Craig]

I wonder what changed people’s minds in year three?

TO campaigned pretty hard that he was getting different standards applied to him than others. So much was brought up about his antics that were not a measuring stick that was applied to other players. I think he made just enough sense and got other players already in the HOF agreeing with him and stumped for him as well to be in that they convinced enough voters. I also think that the writers like to get in some final dig at the players they didn't like. By keeping them out of the HOF for a year or several years, they get some last bit of pettiness at the player.

[woodbuck27]

TO campaigned pretty hard that he was getting different standards applied to him than others. So much was brought up about his antics that were not a measuring stick that was applied to other players. I think he made just enough sense and got other players already in the HOF agreeing with him and stumped for him as well to be in that they convinced enough voters. I also think that the writers like to get in some final dig at the players they didn't like. By keeping them out of the HOF for a year or several years, they get some last bit of pettiness at the player.

Yes I agree and the 'tbe be patient with us as we had to be patient with your impetulant ways in the past' factor and holding TO out until year three of eligibility.

Then there is the possible Point of bringing in Randy Moss as a First Ballot Candidate and any consideration of holding Moss out based on his off field behaviour.

I think it came down to this:

Looking at Terrell Owens and Randy Moss, it became way too obvious that there game production had to place both in the NFL HOF.

When a NFL player has to be seriously considered and game planned for year after year that player has to be seriously considered for the NFL Hall Fame.

[bobblehead]

That's just silly. You don't think Randy Moss or TO could still get deep? 44 is old, sure, but athletes don't just go from premier to nothing over night. They could easily make a roster, but they both have plenty of money that additional traction on the body isn't worth the salary they'd earn.

Ummm...no. Jerry Rice is the best WR ever and his last two seasons at 41 and 42 were bad. QB, Kicker, maybe punter can compete at 40. No other position has a chance.

[pbmax]

Ummm...no. Jerry Rice is the best WR ever and his last two seasons at 41 and 42 were bad. QB, Kicker, maybe punter can compete at 40. No other position has a chance.

Isn't Brady 0-1 in Super Bowls in his 40s? Sounds terrible to me.

[woodbuck27]

Ummm...no. Jerry Rice is the best WR ever and his last two seasons at 41 and 42 were bad. QB, Kicker, maybe punter can compete at 40. No other position has a chance.

Here's a couple of examples of NFL Players excelly in the NFL at 40 Years of age.

http://www.nfl.com/player/tombrady/2504211/careerstats

2017 Season NFL MVP Tom Brady (Born: 8/3/1977)

Did you forget this Guy?

Brett Favre: Born: 10/10/1969

Brett Favre's Stat's 2009 included: 531 Passing attempts and 363 Competitions for a Career BEST 68.4 %

Favre passed for 4202 Yards that Season for a Career BEST 7.9 Yard Average.

He averaged 262.6 Yards/Game or the 3rd Best in his 20 Year NFL Career.

Favre had 33 TD's or Tied for 4th Best in his Career.

[woodbuck27]

I honestly believe the changes in the CBA limiting contact in practice is the reason why injuries are up league wide.

I agree with you.