Mike Pettine

[mraynrand]

But, but, draft and develop. Free agents are some form of black magic.

You constitutive complainers are boring drones. Really. Under TT, Packers picked up few free agents. But when they did, they typically helped. Woodson, Pickett, Peppers, to a lesser extent Brooks, and even Green off the scrap heap.

Instead of the boring and repetitive complaining, how about a decent run-down of possible FA guys and why you'd sign 'em.

Or do a thorough analysis of FA defensive linemen and OLBs signed around the league from last season and see who worked, who failed and why.

[bobblehead]

VERY impressed with his PC. http://www.packers.com/media-center/...e-611db29872efMaybe it's the Kool-aid kicking in.

Few things that stood out. He talked about how you used to go into a game with 50-60 defensive calls, and now it's down to 20-25. He said the reason is you're using younger players, and CBA has reduced time you can spend with the players. I wonder if this is an adjustment Capers was unable to make.

He said he has no desire to be a HC again. Said he missed the day to day camaraderie and coaching. More administrative responsibilities as a HC. Which means he could be here a while if he does well.

Talked about the 3-4/4-3 distinction being pretty much a thing of the past. Said you want to look multiple to opponents without becoming too complex. Talked about the versatility of Clay Matthews.

And MM talks about the need to play physical and run the ball well and then the game starts.

I hope he means everything he says. But I treat coaches like I treat politicians. I don't much care what their lips say as much as what their actions say.

[Maxie the Taxi]

I was about to say the same thing. Best d-line in team history and none of them drafted by us

Isn’t it ironic, don’t cha think?

A lot of Packer fans would argue that the 1962 D-line was the best in team history (Willie Davis, Henry Jordan, Dave Hanner, Bill Quinlan). Davis and Jordan are in the NFL HOF. Of those four only one (Hanner) was drafted by us.

[bobblehead]

Belichickism.

All were free agent acquisitions

So when is Reggie White going to become available in FA again? I mean, the game today is exactly the same as the game in 1996 right? I mean teams that have signed the biggest name FA win superbowls right? Albert Haynesworth, Josh Norman, Aaron Kampman (to jaguars), Julius Peppers (to Bears), Jared Allen, and I could go on, but that is just off the top of my head.

Ron Wolf took advantage of the infancy of FA and the fact that he had a publicly owned team that had a mountain of cash on hand and he bought a super bowl by paying Reggie whatever he wanted. Reggie was the greatest Defensive player of all time (imo). Don't get me wrong, if Khalil Mack or Von Miller become available I'm all for spending some money, but to overpay for AJ bouye...no thanks.

TTs biggest FA mistakes were not resigning some of his own like Casey Hayward and Micah Hyde. Overpaying Clay Mathews to be an elite pass rusher when he never was.

The problem with this team for awhile has been Dom Capers and occasionally mike mccarthy, and often injuries. There is adequate talent on the field to win with. I could on for hours about MM forgetting that running the ball is an option, or him and Dom not realizing Clay mathews could be an elite ILB, but merely above average OLB. Bottom line though is they were successful, but not Patriots successful. I was ready for some change...mainly Capers. Instead I fear we lost a great GM who was smart enough not to give in to the whims of fans. Every fan of every team believes they are ONE player from the superbowl. That is rarely the case.

[bobblehead]

And incidentally Wolf has exactly as many Lombardi trophies sitting in the packer hall of fame as TT does.

[bobblehead]

Ron wolf took the expansion Buccaneers to an 0-26 start before leaving the franchise. He never won a superbowl as a GM anywhere else. You guys deify him like he is some epoch success. TT built the seahawks team that went to the superbowl for Holmgren and he won a SB in GB with a QB everyone was pissed that he drafted.

Tell me why people think Wolf was so much better than TT?

[ZachMN]

Ron wolf took the expansion Buccaneers to an 0-26 start before leaving the franchise. He never won a superbowl as a GM anywhere else. You guys deify him like he is some epoch success. TT built the seahawks team that went to the superbowl for Holmgren and he won a SB in GB with a QB everyone was pissed that he drafted.

Tell me why people think Wolf was so much better than TT?

And he left the Packers in the hands of Sherman....

[Cobra Kai]

And he left the Packers in the hands of Sherman....

And 1 glorious year of Ray Rhodes...

[pbmax]

I was about to say the same thing. Best d-line in team history and none of them drafted by us

Isn’t it ironic, don’t cha think?

Too bad he couldn't sustain it.


Super Bowl I Don't Care: https://twitter.com/Terrell_Davis/st...48009315516424

[pbmax]

Belichickism.

All were free agent acquisitions

Gilbert was a street free agent. None of the malcontents is asking for more of them.

[pbmax]

Ron wolf took the expansion Buccaneers to an 0-26 start before leaving the franchise. He never won a superbowl as a GM anywhere else. You guys deify him like he is some epoch success. TT built the seahawks team that went to the superbowl for Holmgren and he won a SB in GB with a QB everyone was pissed that he drafted.

Tell me why people think Wolf was so much better than TT?

Bobble, its easy to understand. Wolf was very good at answering the phone for reporters and answering questions in a snappy format during press conferences.

Its not yet dawned on the GB press corps (for that matter, the national press corp) that they were snowed.

[mraynrand]

Ron wolf took the expansion Buccaneers to an 0-26 start before leaving the franchise. He never won a superbowl as a GM anywhere else. You guys deify him like he is some epoch success. TT built the seahawks team that went to the superbowl for Holmgren and he won a SB in GB with a QB everyone was pissed that he drafted.

Tell me why people think Wolf was so much better than TT?

Can I choose both? I thought they were both pretty awesome. Wolf's last (or second-to-last, depending on which story you believe) GM year, 2000, was one for the ages. Should have netted the Packers a SB in 2002, APRH, and maybe 2003, ANFBF (assuming no Favre brain fart). Brought in Green (on Sherman's recommendation) in a total steal of a trade and 4-5 very productive starters in the draft.

BG has two pair of huge shoes to fill.

[Joemailman]

lets hope we see more 4/3 to go with the 3/4 and less 2/5, 1/6 and 0/12 looks or whatever the hell kind of shit capers used

The nickel defense is now the base defense in the NFL. The problem was not that the Packers played too much nickel and dime. The problem was that they did not play it well.

[MadScientist]

http://host.madison.com/wsj/sports/f...81baafb1c.html
This quote stood out for me:

“The cornerstone for us is going to be, first of all, fundamentally sound, smart football,” Pettine said. “We coach the heck out of the little details. If you want to get into the schematic stuff, I like to appear multiple. I know people have said the system can be very complicated, but we like to appear multiple without necessarily putting that much stuff in.”

It sounds like the defense will be fundamentally sound and not be overly complex, but just appear that way. I really like the sound of that, and I hope he pulls it off with the players he has available.

[Joemailman]

http://host.madison.com/wsj/sports/f...81baafb1c.html
This quote stood out for me:


It sounds like the defense will be fundamentally sound and not be overly complex, but just appear that way. I really like the sound of that, and I hope he pulls it off with the players he has available.

It's kind of just the opposite of what I saw from the Packers defense this past year. The defense seemed too complex for some of the Packer players to grasp, but it didn't seem to fool the opposition.

n the next few months, Pettine will be evaluating this roster to see what he has and see what it can do. The “cupboard isn’t bare,” Pettine remarked.

“In the NFL, it’s all about the players,” Pettine said. “I’ve always been a big believer in having a system and building your roster that way but you have to work with who you have on campus. You can’t win with players you don’t have.”