Rodgers Coming Extension

[denverYooper]

Why can't the Packers just print money and give it to Rodgers on the side? The Glorious Multiplier!

They can always use the Denver compensation model.

[pbmax]

They can always use the Denver compensation model.

There are Rodgers ads for Gordie Boucher (in Madison its BOO-chey, its Green Bay at one time, it was BUTCH-er) everywhere. It might already be happening.

[gbgary]

AR takes less money than Ryan to help get to another Super Bowl.

not after Rodgers' all-in decree fell on deaf ears.



here are ryan's details...

1. Signing bonus: $46.5 million.

2. 2018 salary: $6 million, fully guaranteed.

3. 2019 option bonus: $10 million, fully guaranteed.

4. 2019 salary: $11.5 million, fully guaranteed.

5. 2020 salary: $20.5 million, fully guaranteed.

6. 2021 salary: $23 million, $5.5 million of which is guaranteed for injury only at signing. The $5.5 million becomes fully guaranteed on the third day of the 2019 league year.

7. 2022 roster bonus: $7.5 million, due third day of 2021 league year.

8. 2022 salary: $16.25 million.

9. 2023 roster bonus: $7.5 million, due third day of 2021 league year.

10. 2023 salary: $20.5 million.

11. All guarantees have no offset language.

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2018/05/04/under-any-analysis-matt-ryans-sets-a-new-bar/

http://www.spotrac.com/nfl/atlanta-falcons/matt-ryan-3983/

[mraynrand]

The looming collapse of ESPN/cable contracts will upset the whole apple cart.

[gbgary]

The looming collapse of ESPN/cable contracts will upset the whole apple cart.

lol...never thought of that. suddenly the cap goes down instead of up. smh

[red]

That's about what I was thinking. Does Danica make as much as Brady's super model?

At very least, I'm sure the contract will be cap-friendly for the team. If Atlanta and other teams can survive and thrive paying the same or close to the money Rodgers will get, why would some of you guys be so worried that the Packers can't do the same. Atlanta and some other teams have money tied up in other star players too, undoubtedly more than the Packers in several cases.

NE and their HC have proven time after time that they are a pretty damn good team even without Brady

The packers have proven twice now, that we aren’t shit without Rodgers, like bottom 5 in the nfl bad

He’s not gonna take less money, nor should he

[red]

The looming collapse of ESPN/cable contracts will upset the whole apple cart.

Rating do keep going down

When’s the next cba?

[texaspackerbacker]

Ouch. $94.5 of the $100 mil guarantee is fully guaranteed. To claw back that last $5.5, Atlanta would have to cut him after one year.

No workout or game day roster bonuses. No incentives. Its basically $100 fully guaranteed for all practical effect.


https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.co...ets-a-new-bar/

That's $94.5 or 100 million out of $169 million according to the article - still a lot, but only 70% or so of the total. The terms actually seemed pretty cap friendly. About the only way they are hurt - and the Packers in a similar situation with Rodgers too - is if Ryan gets a career-ending injury, and they probably have insurance against that.

[pbmax]

Rating do keep going down

When’s the next cba?

2020.

ratings are down, but rights fees still going up. They are collecting a huge sum from Amazon in the next few years.

Football (college and pro) still delivers a very strong proportion of the viewing public. But peak TV and cord cutters have really fragmented the audience. So proportion remains strong while overall number is lower.

I would bet rights fees remain high as long as there are new players in the market for digital distribution.

[red]

2020.

ratings are down, but rights fees still going up. They are collecting a huge sum from Amazon in the next few years.

Football (college and pro) still delivers a very strong proportion of the viewing public. But peak TV and cord cutters have really fragmented the audience. So proportion remains strong while overall number is lower.

I would bet rights fees remain high as long as there are new players in the market for digital distribution.

proportion shouldn't matter anywhere near as much as actual eyes do

if you use to have 25% of 10 million, and today you have 50% of 1 million (numbers are not accurate, just easy to use), then a whole hell of a lot less people are gonna be seeing the ads run during the games

but you are right, that someone out there will probably continue to pay big bucks for the right

[mraynrand]

2020.

ratings are down, but rights fees still going up. They are collecting a huge sum from Amazon in the next few years.

Football (college and pro) still delivers a very strong proportion of the viewing public. But peak TV and cord cutters have really fragmented the audience. So proportion remains strong while overall number is lower.

I would bet rights fees remain high as long as there are new players in the market for digital distribution.

The Amazon thing is only for TNF - so far. DirecTV seems intent on transitioning from the dish to streaming via AT&T. Popularity of NFL will naturally wane as the next generation who don't play it come up. Won't be more than 10-20 years. I don't know the business well enough to know how they can extract as much $$$ as they did from cable bundling.

[pbmax]

proportion shouldn't matter anywhere near as much as actual eyes do

if you use to have 25% of 10 million, and today you have 50% of 1 million (numbers are not accurate, just easy to use), then a whole hell of a lot less people are gonna be seeing the ads run during the games

but you are right, that someone out there will probably continue to pay big bucks for the right

Advertisers want demographics and numbers. Business spending on advertising hasn’t shrunk. So dollars are still there.

NFL has demo that many companies want. And they have the biggest numbers still. The internet might solve this and deliver bigger numbers more reliably than TV but we aren’t there yet. So I’d say they are vulnerable but the method of recknoning has not arrived.

Baseball revenues have been growing fantastically for a long while even as they cannot deliver the TV viewers football can. So they have web and local options too. But their inventory isn’t as deep as baseball so it’s not a perfect solution either.

[red]

Advertisers want demographics and numbers. Business spending on advertising hasn’t shrunk. So dollars are still there.

NFL has demo that many companies want. And they have the biggest numbers still. The internet might solve this and deliver bigger numbers more reliably than TV but we aren’t there yet. So I’d say they are vulnerable but the method of recknoning has not arrived.

Baseball revenues have been growing fantastically for a long while even as they cannot deliver the TV viewers football can. So they have web and local options too. But their inventory isn’t as deep as baseball so it’s not a perfect solution either.

yeah but baseball plays, what is it 160 games or so?

their rating might not be much, but you have to remember that they have 10 times the amount of games. so over a full season, just as many eyes might be watching, just more spread out

do they even show baseball on tv anymore?

[Cheesehead Craig]

The NFL also has not embraced all advertising revenues options as of yet. They still do not have logos of sponsors on the field (even if it's just digitally superimposed), on the jerseys, or ads on the barriers of the stadium inside. So the money train will still keep coming in.

[Guiness]

not after Rodgers' all-in decree fell on deaf ears.

here are ryan's details...

1. Signing bonus: $46.5 million.

2. 2018 salary: $6 million, fully guaranteed.

3. 2019 option bonus: $10 million, fully guaranteed.

4. 2019 salary: $11.5 million, fully guaranteed.

5. 2020 salary: $20.5 million, fully guaranteed.

6. 2021 salary: $23 million, $5.5 million of which is guaranteed for injury only at signing. The $5.5 million becomes fully guaranteed on the third day of the 2019 league year.

7. 2022 roster bonus: $7.5 million, due third day of 2021 league year.

8. 2022 salary: $16.25 million.

9. 2023 roster bonus: $7.5 million, due third day of 2021 league year.

10. 2023 salary: $20.5 million.

11. All guarantees have no offset language.

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2018/05/04/under-any-analysis-matt-ryans-sets-a-new-bar/

http://www.spotrac.com/nfl/atlanta-f...att-ryan-3983/

Am I entirely missing something here? How is this $30M/year new money and $28.2 average? The guaranteed money is $94 over 4 years, or 23.6/year, and the back end numbers are low, not inflated, the highest being $28m in 2023, which is likely very underpaid by that time.

This looks to me like a Brady-like deal.