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  • Originally posted by denverYooper View Post
    Packers effectively swapped Jordy's 2018 cap dollars for Graham and Wilkerson

    Tom Silverstein
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    9m9 minutes ago

    The combination of Graham and Wilkerson costs the #Packers $10.41 million in cap dollars, almost exactly the same as the $10.25M they got from cutting Jordy Nelson.
    Dang, math is hard.

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    • Originally posted by woodbuck27 View Post
      Can't the Contract be structured to minimize the CAP hit?

      Yes it can.

      Today we see clearly that the Packers are in a huge hole at the WR position on a Team that needs to be BIG on Offense because of a horrid Pass Defense. That chemistry between Aaron Rodgers and Jordy Nelson was obviously real.

      On the flip side of that:

      Yes we began to see a decline in Jordy in the 2016 Season. Yes Aaron made Jordy with his ability to extend plays.

      Jordy is gone. I moved on with that as soon as he was signed by Oakland and good luck with that as he needed to hope that IMO Bill Belichick might love him. Raiders QB Derek Carr isn't Aaron Rodgers noe Tom Brady. I predict that Jordy Nelson signed his last Contract in the NFL.
      I wiould bet even money that Nelson doesn't make it to the end of his contract with the Raiders either ending his career on IR or the waiver wire.

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      • Originally posted by denverYooper View Post
        Packers effectively swapped Jordy's 2018 cap dollars for Graham and Wilkerson

        Tom Silverstein
        ‏Verified account @TomSilverstein
        9m9 minutes ago

        The combination of Graham and Wilkerson costs the #Packers $10.41 million in cap dollars, almost exactly the same as the $10.25M they got from cutting Jordy Nelson.
        This makes me tremendously happy. Graham for Nelson straight up is a push imo, but once you add in Wilkerson this decision becomes great.
        All tyrannies rule through fraud and force, but once the fraud is exposed they must rely exclusively on force.

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        • The only thing I would question in the entire process with Nelson is that it got out that the Packers low-balled him to stay. All players have to go at some point, but the front office gets to decide how to handle it. If it's true that they low-balled him, that's a bad look for the front office. Jordy is one of the more popular players in recent memory, and will most likely be in the Packer HOF. Simple formula...if you only want a player if he'll play for closer to the minimum, and he's an all-time player for the team, then release him rather than ask him to take a major pay cut, unless that release involves altering his contract to re-work so you spread out the cap hit, but that clearly wasn't the case here.
          "Everyone is entitled to his own opinion, but not his own facts." -Daniel Patrick Moynihan

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          • Think about it this way CP. Let's assume the Packers knew, because they were taking to his agent (who was talking to the Raiders and others) that Jordy was "looking" for $8mil this year to continue. The exact number doesn't matter for this exercise, just that someone was offering it.

            Packers decide that with a TE, DT and a CB in FA, that the numbers don't work for them. They could say God Bless You and go.

            But eventually its going to get out that they didn't offer anything at all.

            Would you actually feel better about that story as opposed to the "lowballing" him?

            The truth is, the Packers did not want him back unless it was extra cheap and Jordy did not want to play for extra cheap. Hence, separate ways.

            Now adults who are not covering their butt, which both Packers and the agent are, could have a meeting, discuss it like adults and then part on friendly company with a joint announcement about how they differed but parted company on good terms and wished each other well. But in business its not always best to show all your cards at any given point. So the ambiguity serves both parties short term interests, even if overall it makes them look childish.
            Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.

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            • Packers new 3rd wideout soon to be available on the waiver wire:

              TMZ Sports @TMZ_Sports
              Buffalo Bills Zay Jones in Nude, Bloody Arrest After Penthouse Meltdown

              Buffalo Bills WR Zay Jones got into a bizarre naked struggle with his NFL player brother, and it ended in a bloody mess.
              Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.

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              • Originally posted by pbmax View Post
                Think about it this way CP. Let's assume the Packers knew, because they were taking to his agent (who was talking to the Raiders and others) that Jordy was "looking" for $8mil this year to continue. The exact number doesn't matter for this exercise, just that someone was offering it.

                Packers decide that with a TE, DT and a CB in FA, that the numbers don't work for them. They could say God Bless You and go.

                But eventually its going to get out that they didn't offer anything at all.

                Would you actually feel better about that story as opposed to the "lowballing" him?

                The truth is, the Packers did not want him back unless it was extra cheap and Jordy did not want to play for extra cheap. Hence, separate ways.

                Now adults who are not covering their butt, which both Packers and the agent are, could have a meeting, discuss it like adults and then part on friendly company with a joint announcement about how they differed but parted company on good terms and wished each other well. But in business its not always best to show all your cards at any given point. So the ambiguity serves both parties short term interests, even if overall it makes them look childish.


                WINNER WINNER CHICKEN DINNER

                Put on your big boy pants and just call a spade a spade. GB figured it would be better off with Graham over Nelson....and possibly the ability to get Wilkinson worked in it's favor as well. So if you want to spin the dam negative come out and say GB was better off with Jordy than Jimmy Graham. And if you want to spin the positive say GB was better off with Graham and Wilkinson that Nelson.

                I say KUDOS TO GOOTERS !!
                TERD Buckley over Troy Vincent, Robert Ferguson over Chris Chambers, Kevn King instead of TJ Watt, and now, RICH GANNON, over JIMMY JIMMY JIMMY LEONARD. Thank you FLOWER

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                • Right or wrong, I respect that he’s making calls. It’s his chance and he’s taking his shot. Now, if he fails, he’s just a loser. If he wins at least one sb, he’s a winner.
                  Formerly known as JustinHarrell.

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                  • Originally posted by JustinHarrell View Post
                    Right or wrong, I respect that he’s making calls. It’s his chance and he’s taking his shot. Now, if he fails, he’s just a loser. If he wins at least one sb, he’s a winner.
                    Whoa, wait a second. You know that around here a GM with 1 Superbowl win is a "fart in the wind" and "wasting Favre/Rodgers/nextQB who is autonomously sublime."
                    "Never, never ever support a punk like mraynrand. Rather be as I am and feel real sympathy for his sickness." - Woodbuck

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                    • Originally posted by JustinHarrell View Post
                      Right or wrong, I respect that he’s making calls. It’s his chance and he’s taking his shot. Now, if he fails, he’s just a loser. If he wins at least one sb, he’s a winner.
                      Dangerously respectful Justin
                      Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.

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                      • Originally posted by pbmax View Post
                        Packers new 3rd wideout soon to be available on the waiver wire:

                        TMZ Sports @TMZ_Sports
                        Buffalo Bills Zay Jones in Nude, Bloody Arrest After Penthouse Meltdown

                        https://t.co/nBpWbrjT5F
                        Dude said he was gonna fight for Jesus. I'm a fan of Jesus. Sign Zay, yo!

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                        • So who is gonna host the annual charity softball game in A-town now that J-Nel is in O-town?

                          It went from the Gunslinger to Drive to J-Nel. Perhaps A-Rod will sign up?

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                          • Originally posted by Anti-Polar Bear View Post
                            Dude said he was gonna fight for Jesus. I'm a fan of Jesus. Sign Zay, yo!
                            Hahahahahahahahahahaa

                            " 10:42 AM PT -- The NFL tells us they are "looking into the matter." ..."


                            Comment woodbuck27:



                            And ... I thought and I guess I was correct the NFL is ...'a Manly' League.
                            Last edited by woodbuck27; 03-22-2018, 11:02 AM.
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                            ** If God doesn't fish, play poker or pull for " the Packers ", exactly what does HE do with his buds?
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                            • Originally posted by woodbuck27 View Post
                              Hahahahahahahahahahaa

                              " 10:42 AM PT -- The NFL tells us they are "looking into the matter." ..."


                              Comment woodbuck27:



                              And ... I thought and I guess I was correct the NFL is ...'a Manly' League.

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                              • Originally posted by woodbuck27 View Post
                                Hahahahahahahahahahaa

                                " 10:42 AM PT -- The NFL tells us they are "looking into the matter." ..."


                                Comment woodbuck27:



                                And ... I thought and I guess I was correct the NFL is ...'a Manly' League.
                                I had my mind made up on this Guy with all the Blood smears on the Walls and carpeting.

                                CRAP ! How can anyone get so screwed up !
                                ** Since 2006 3 X Pro Pickem' Champion; 4 X Runner-Up and 3 X 3rd place.
                                ** To download Jesus Loves Me ring tones, you'll need a cell phone mame
                                ** If God doesn't fish, play poker or pull for " the Packers ", exactly what does HE do with his buds?
                                ** Rather than love, money or fame - give me TRUTH: Henry D. Thoreau

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