PackerRats 1st Round Mock Draft

[Deputy Nutz]

Bills would like to move up, can the Bills actively search for a trade partner?

[woodbuck27]

Woody, catch up.

I pm'd Harv and Yeti that I picked a player and that Harv is on the clock.

OK smartass it's time 'you' took a lickin'.

Let's go to 'the Meadow'. You never had to deal with me in 'the Meadow'.

I'm thinking me and two words A) cake and B) walk Vs you .

Re-read your post. Does it make any sense in terms of mine?

NO ! It certainly doesn't.

I'll fix it for you.

[woodbuck27]

Pick NO. 8 Chicago Bears -- Harvey's Wallbangers is now on the Clock.

Picks

1 Cleveland Browns -- Sam Darnold, QB, USC
2 New York Giants -- Bradley Chubb, DE, NC State
3 New York Jets -- Baker Mayfield, QB, Oklahoma
4 Cleveland Browns -- Saquon Barkley, RB, Penn State
5 Denver Broncos -- Quenton Nelson, G, Notre Dame
6 Indianapolis Colts -- Denzel Ward CB OSU
7 Tampa Bay Buccaneers -- Derwin James, S, FSU.
8 Chicago Bears -- Harvey's Wallbangers
9 San Francisco 49ers -- yetisnowman
10 Oakland Raiders -- esoxx
11 Miami Dolphins -- esoxx 2
12 Buffalo Bills -- Deputy Nutz
13 Washington Redskins -- Joemailman
14 Green Bay Packers -- poll
15 Arizona Cardinals -- Cheesehead Craig 2 (poster's second pick is available if we have enough people)
16 Baltimore Ravens -- woodbuck
17 Los Angeles Chargers -- bobblehead
18 Seattle Seahawks -- wthigoot
19 Dallas Cowboys -- Joemailman 2
20 Detroit Lions -- Deputy Nutz 2
21 Cincinnati Bengals -- Guiness 2
22 Buffalo Bills -- BZnDallas
23 New England Patriots -- Bretsky
24 Carolina Panthers -- wthigoot 2
25 Tennessee Titans -- bobblehead
26 Atlanta Falcons -- SudsMcBucky
27 New Orleans Saints -- woodbuck 2
28 Pittsburgh Steelers -- pbmax 2
29 Jacksonville Jaguars -- yetisnowman 2
30 Minnesota Vikings -- Justin Harrell 2
31 New England Patriots -- Bretsky 2
32 Philadelphia Eagles -- Harvey's Wallbangers 2

[Cheesehead Craig]

OK smartass it's time 'you' took a lickin'.

Let's go to 'the Meadow'. You never had to deal with me in 'the Meadow'.

I'm thinking me and two words A) cake and B) walk Vs you .

Re-read your post. Does it make any sense in terms of mine?

NO ! It certainly doesn't.

I'll fix it for you.

Yes it does. You posted that I was on the clock 7 hours after I posted the pick. Lighten up Francis.

[woodbuck27]

Yes it does. You posted that I was on the clock 7 hours after I posted the pick. Lighten up Francis.

See Post 85 and see Post 86....

You lose.

"Elementary, My Dear Watson" Sherlock Holmes

[Cheesehead Craig]

See Post 85 and see Post 86....

You lose.

"Elementary, My Dear Watson" Sherlock Holmes

Yeah, post #85 is Joe stating I'm on the clock, #86 is me posting the pick at 10:14pm last night and post #89 is you posting I'm on the clock at 5:43 this morning. Times are CST. So I have no clue what the hell you're talking about.

[mraynrand]

So I have no clue what the hell you're talking about.

club joined

[pbmax]

Denver passing on a QB as well as the NYG would be bad for GB's chances of seeing one of the golden boys fall

If it happens, someone will trade up for one of them.

[pbmax]

thats why i think these things are dumb

we're all packer fans and have been looking at players that fit the packers needs for awhile

so everybody picks the packers targets for very little thought put in to the other teams needs. and how would we know what others teams needs are? i doubt any of us spend much time on other teams boards

Yoop lives in Denver and probably knows as much about their needs as you do about the Packers.

I can see Denver not liking their choices there. With Keenum signed, do you want an immediate QB battle?

[pbmax]

Bills would like to move up, can the Bills actively search for a trade partner?

Of course. But I suggest just draft pick for draft pick trades. Judging players will be too hard. Gotta get a legit score on one of the draft pick trade value charts.

https://www.calculatorsoup.com/calculators/games/draft-pick-value.php

[mraynrand]

thats why i think these things are dumb

we're all packer fans and have been looking at players that fit the packers needs for awhile

so everybody picks the packers targets for very little thought put in to the other teams needs. and how would we know what others teams needs are? i doubt any of us spend much time on other teams boards

I'm not sure how much value that gives anyway. The Cleveland boards and the radio stations are a steady stream of mostly complaining. And the radio hosts have as many different opinions as the fans on the boards. The only real value to being 'in town' is to maybe listen to the beat writers (usually one or two guys or gals) who actually have their ear to the ground. IN Cleveland it's Terry Pluto, Toni Grossi, and Mary Kay Cabot. Still, more than half the time, they're wrong. Even so, most of their stuff is on twitter/on the line, so it's not hard to get a feel for the team direction. See for example this Q&A with Mary Kay (hey that rhymes - I could be in advertising)

Hey, Mary Kay: Is all the talk about the Browns really liking Josh Allen, including from a 'friend of John Dorsey's'' (according to Peter King of SI.com) true? -- Ben Jones, Macon, Georgia

Hey, Ben: I know the Browns really like a lot about Allen, including his big arm, his mobility, his size and his processing speed. I just don't know if they feel comfortable enough about his ability to improve his accuracy by shortening his stride. It's a projection. He's only two months into the new footwork that he's been honing under the guidance of QB guru Jordan Palmer, and his upside is tremendous if he can commit it to muscle memory. In fact, no matter how much I try to talk myself out of Allen because of the 56.2 completion percentage at Wyoming, I can't help but like him and would probably take him No. 1 if the draft were tomorrow. But I just don't know if the Browns will pull the trigger on him at No. 1 with the accuracy concerns. It seems to me they'll opt for Darnold, who has natural accuracy and anticipation.

Hey, Mary Kay: You talk about how Josh Rosen probably won't be drafted by the Browns because the offense won't be "seamless" in transitioning from Tyrod Taylor to him. Please don't tell me that John Dorsey and his "football guys" share this theory. Why would drafting a quarterback that we want to play for the next 15 plus years have any bearing on whether or not he can transition into an offense that A. might be different in a year and B.match the skills set of a bridge quarterback? -- Devin Hernan, Concord, Ohio

Hey, Devin: I think the Browns made a concerted effort to acquire a veteran quarterback that had the dual-threat skill set they were seeking, and one that would match up with what they were looking for in their quarterback of the future. Hue Jackson has mentioned on several occasions that they'd like the rookie QB to share traits with Taylor so they're not re-inventing the wheel when the first-rounder is ready to play. The entire offense must adjust to a mobile quarterback, and the Browns don't want to go from a classic, dropback passer to a dual-threat QB, or vice versa. Therefore, I think QBs such as Darnold, Allen, Mayfield and Jackson fit the bill, while the less mobile Rosen is more of a reach.

[pbmax]

Quarterback guru Jordan Palmer is going to take some getting used to.

[pbmax]

Why on earth would you want the rookie QB to share traits with Tyrod because of the offense? Are they even going to the playoffs this year? That just seems to be Hue Jackson lobbying to keep his job.

If you want a mobile guy for your new fangled offense OK. But to worry about going from one QB to another in a year? Dumb.

[mraynrand]

Quarterback guru Jordan Palmer is going to take some getting used to.

It's his body of work with the Arizona Rattlers that lends him his greatest credibility.

(FYI, he couldn't make the depth chart with QBs Lang Campbell and Jeff Smoker in front of him and, following his disastrous 2008 season, the AFL suspended operations for a year)

[Anti-Polar Bear]

Bills would like to move up, can the Bills actively search for a trade partner?

Looking to pull a Ditka and trade all of your picks for the Small School Guy with the Big Arm, eh?