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Originally posted by pbmax View Post
QBase is the Football Outsiders projection for college QBs into the Pros. It take in more factors than just completion percentage.Since 1997, there have been 27 different quarterbacks chosen in the top 100 with QBASE ratings below zero. The best of these quarterbacks was either Josh McCown or Brian Griese. It's a terrible group of quarterback busts. Negative-QBASE passers chosen in the first round include Mark Sanchez, Josh Freeman, Kyle Boller, Rex Grossman, J.P. Losman, and Patrick Ramsey.
Its entirely possible Allen is getting hyped by reporter-scouts who are just passing along misinformation and that once reporters actually get wind of team rankings, Allen will fall down the board. Its also possible he just drops on draft day naturally.
But if he gets selected in the first round, will be a nice example in the metrics versus eyeball battle. And the Jets might just be the team goofy enough to do it early.
I also think that Rand could be right about Cleveland. I think Darnold or Rosen is who I take. But Packer Brain Trust: Cleveland Division might just reverse a mistake the former numbers guy GM made (skipping on chance for Wentz whose metrics were not top flight) and take a guy who passes the eyeball test wth flying colors.
I would love to ask Ron Wolf about how certain he was about Favre and if he would have taken him with the first Jets pick. The Jets used that years #1 to take Rob Moore in the previous Summer's supplemental draft.
He said that he and Steinberg both liked Favre as the best player in the draft. I wonder if that is literally true.
Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.
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This is a tough one. I can see Elway going a few ways:Originally posted by pbmax View PostdYooper and the Broncos are on the clock!
1.) Replenish the strength of the team -- its defense. They recently let a few of their talented secondary walk and it would make sense to draft someone for the backend.
2.) Add another name to the quarterback room. As a former QB, Elway realizes that you still need a solid QB to win for extended periods in the NFL. He had some success in renting Manning for a few years but the non-Manning years have been lean. I know they signed Keenum but I would not be surprised to see them draft a QB here to compete if Elway likes one of them.
3.) Solidify the OL. IMO the Broncos have have had glaring holes in their OL these last couple of years. They've seen more penetration than <insert favorite ribaldlry> and it hasn't mattered who they have had in at QB, because that guy has been running for his life for the last 2 years.
Just because I'm bored of watching Denver QBs run for their lives, with the 5th pick of the draft the Denver Broncos take Quenton Nelson, G, Notre Dame.When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro ~Hunter S.
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Great Pick.Originally posted by denverYooper View PostThis is a tough one. I can see Elway going a few ways:
1.) Replenish the strength of the team -- its defense. They recently let a few of their talented secondary walk and it would make sense to draft someone for the backend.
2.) Add another name to the quarterback room. As a former QB, Elway realizes that you still need a solid QB to win for extended periods in the NFL. He had some success in renting Manning for a few years but the non-Manning years have been lean. I know they signed Keenum but I would not be surprised to see them draft a QB here to compete if Elway likes one of them.
3.) Solidify the OL. IMO the Broncos have have had glaring holes in their OL these last couple of years. They've seen more penetration than <insert favorite ribaldlry> and it hasn't mattered who they have had in at QB, because that guy has been running for his life for the last 2 years.
Just because I'm bored of watching Denver QBs run for their lives, with the 5th pick of the draft the Denver Broncos take Quenton Nelson, G, Notre Dame.** Since 2006 3 X Pro Pickem' Champion; 4 X Runner-Up and 3 X 3rd place.
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Nick Collins/Greg Jennings/Justin Harrell on the clock!
Picks
1 Cleveland Browns -- Sam Darnold, QB, USC
2 New York Giants -- Bradley Chubb, DE, NC State
3 New York Jets -- Baker Mayfield, QB, Oklahoma
4 Cleveland Browns -- Saquon Barkley, RB, Penn State
5 Denver Broncos -- Quenton Nelson, G, Notre Dame
6 Indianapolis Colts -- Justin Harrell
7 Tampa Bay Buccaneers -- Cheesehead Craig
8 Chicago Bears -- Harvey's Wallbangers
9 San Francisco 49ers -- yetisnowman
10 Oakland Raiders -- esoxx
11 Miami Dolphins -- esoxx 2
12 Buffalo Bills -- Deputy Nutz
13 Washington Redskins -- Joemailman
14 Green Bay Packers -- poll
15 Arizona Cardinals -- Cheesehead Craig 2 (poster's second pick is available if we have enough people)
16 Baltimore Ravens -- woodbuck
17 Los Angeles Chargers -- bobblehead
18 Seattle Seahawks -- wthigoot
19 Dallas Cowboys -- Joemailman 2
20 Detroit Lions -- Deputy Nutz 2
21 Cincinnati Bengals -- Guiness 2
22 Buffalo Bills -- BZnDallas
23 New England Patriots -- Bretsky
24 Carolina Panthers -- wthigoot 2
25 Tennessee Titans -- bobblehead
26 Atlanta Falcons -- SudsMcBucky
27 New Orleans Saints -- woodbuck 2
28 Pittsburgh Steelers -- pbmax 2
29 Jacksonville Jaguars -- yetisnowman 2
30 Minnesota Vikings -- Justin Harrell 2
31 New England Patriots -- Bretsky 2
32 Philadelphia Eagles -- Harvey's Wallbangers 2Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.
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I like and don't like the pick. Probably BPA (assuming you're not in love with any of the QBs left...Rosen?) but a guard? Is that a position you fill with a #5 pick?Originally posted by denverYooper View PostJust because I'm bored of watching Denver QBs run for their lives, with the 5th pick of the draft the Denver Broncos take Quenton Nelson, G, Notre Dame.Last edited by Guiness; 04-09-2018, 08:54 PM.--
Imagine for a moment a world without hypothetical situations...
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Denver passing on a QB as well as the NYG would be bad for GB's chances of seeing one of the golden boys fallTERD Buckley over Troy Vincent, Robert Ferguson over Chris Chambers, Kevn King instead of TJ Watt, and now, RICH GANNON, over JIMMY JIMMY JIMMY LEONARD. Thank you FLOWER
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Cheesehead Craig on the clock.Originally posted by pbmax View PostNick Collins/Greg Jennings/Justin Harrell on the clock!
Picks
1 Cleveland Browns -- Sam Darnold, QB, USC
2 New York Giants -- Bradley Chubb, DE, NC State
3 New York Jets -- Baker Mayfield, QB, Oklahoma
4 Cleveland Browns -- Saquon Barkley, RB, Penn State
5 Denver Broncos -- Quenton Nelson, G, Notre Dame
6 Indianapolis Colts -- Justin Harrell Denzel Ward, CB, Ohio St.
7 Tampa Bay Buccaneers -- Cheesehead Craig
8 Chicago Bears -- Harvey's Wallbangers
9 San Francisco 49ers -- yetisnowman
10 Oakland Raiders -- esoxx
11 Miami Dolphins -- esoxx 2
12 Buffalo Bills -- Deputy Nutz
13 Washington Redskins -- Joemailman
14 Green Bay Packers -- poll
15 Arizona Cardinals -- Cheesehead Craig 2 (poster's second pick is available if we have enough people)
16 Baltimore Ravens -- woodbuck
17 Los Angeles Chargers -- bobblehead
18 Seattle Seahawks -- wthigoot
19 Dallas Cowboys -- Joemailman 2
20 Detroit Lions -- Deputy Nutz 2
21 Cincinnati Bengals -- Guiness 2
22 Buffalo Bills -- BZnDallas
23 New England Patriots -- Bretsky
24 Carolina Panthers -- wthigoot 2
25 Tennessee Titans -- bobblehead
26 Atlanta Falcons -- SudsMcBucky
27 New Orleans Saints -- woodbuck 2
28 Pittsburgh Steelers -- pbmax 2
29 Jacksonville Jaguars -- yetisnowman 2
30 Minnesota Vikings -- Justin Harrell 2
31 New England Patriots -- Bretsky 2
32 Philadelphia Eagles -- Harvey's Wallbangers 2I can't run no more
With that lawless crowd
While the killers in high places
Say their prayers out loud
But they've summoned, they've summoned up
A thundercloud
They're going to hear from me - Leonard Cohen
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The Bucs have a mess in their secondary. They really couldn't go wrong with either James or Fitzpatrick in helping that sad unit. My sources inside the organization tell me that they really love James and feel his ceiling is huge. He's a phenom that will lead their defense for the next decade.
The pick is Derwin James, S, FSU.All hail the Ruler of the Meadow!
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thats why i think these things are dumbOriginally posted by Bretsky View PostDenver passing on a QB as well as the NYG would be bad for GB's chances of seeing one of the golden boys fall
we're all packer fans and have been looking at players that fit the packers needs for awhile
so everybody picks the packers targets for very little thought put in to the other teams needs. and how would we know what others teams needs are? i doubt any of us spend much time on other teams boards
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If you trust the NFL Sites ie NFL.Com; CBS.Com; ESPN; Drafttek (etc.) and all the Draft Analysts and deemed NFL Experts and their Mock Drafts ...Add the Draft Guru's ie ...NFL Network's Mike Mayock and McShay and KiperOriginally posted by red View Postthats why i think these things are dumb
we're all packer fans and have been looking at players that fit the packers needs for awhile
so everybody picks the packers targets for very little thought put in to the other teams needs. and how would we know what others teams needs are? i doubt any of us spend much time on other teams boards
it's all out there. It takes a load of time to really analyze and be on top of it. That's the duty of the Green Bay Packer Draft Team. They better get it close to right for the next three Seasons,
Add the Tube and The NFL Network analysis and all the other Media Video and the Team Fan Sites.
There's loads of information on the better Draft Prospects at every position and their overall Graded Ratings.
At the end of the day it comes down to real need and Risk and really good luck and a players attitude and dedication to the Team that gives him a realshot.
I agree as to analyzing exactly who will be the BEST Prospect available at TR. 1 Pick NO. 14 will be determined by all the first 13 Picks on Draft Day Number One. So far the Packerrats Mock Draft look pretty solid thru the first 6 Picks.** Since 2006 3 X Pro Pickem' Champion; 4 X Runner-Up and 3 X 3rd place.
** To download Jesus Loves Me ring tones, you'll need a cell phone mame
** If God doesn't fish, play poker or pull for " the Packers ", exactly what does HE do with his buds?
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7. Tampa Bay Buccaneers -- Cheesehead Craig is now on the Clock.
Picks
1 Cleveland Browns -- Sam Darnold, QB, USC
2 New York Giants -- Bradley Chubb, DE, NC State
3 New York Jets -- Baker Mayfield, QB, Oklahoma
4 Cleveland Browns -- Saquon Barkley, RB, Penn State
5 Denver Broncos -- Quenton Nelson, G, Notre Dame
6 Indianapolis Colts -- Denzel Ward CB OSU
7 Tampa Bay Buccaneers -- Cheesehead Craig
8 Chicago Bears -- Harvey's Wallbangers
9 San Francisco 49ers -- yetisnowman
10 Oakland Raiders -- esoxx
11 Miami Dolphins -- esoxx 2
12 Buffalo Bills -- Deputy Nutz
13 Washington Redskins -- Joemailman
14 Green Bay Packers -- poll
15 Arizona Cardinals -- Cheesehead Craig 2 (poster's second pick is available if we have enough people)
16 Baltimore Ravens -- woodbuck
17 Los Angeles Chargers -- bobblehead
18 Seattle Seahawks -- wthigoot
19 Dallas Cowboys -- Joemailman 2
20 Detroit Lions -- Deputy Nutz 2
21 Cincinnati Bengals -- Guiness 2
22 Buffalo Bills -- BZnDallas
23 New England Patriots -- Bretsky
24 Carolina Panthers -- wthigoot 2
25 Tennessee Titans -- bobblehead
26 Atlanta Falcons -- SudsMcBucky
27 New Orleans Saints -- woodbuck 2
28 Pittsburgh Steelers -- pbmax 2
29 Jacksonville Jaguars -- yetisnowman 2
30 Minnesota Vikings -- Justin Harrell 2
31 New England Patriots -- Bretsky 2
32 Philadelphia Eagles -- Harvey's Wallbangers 2
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Nice Pick Justin Harrell. With G Quenton Nelson being the NO. 5 Pick overall.
The TOP CB is off the Board.Last edited by woodbuck27; 04-10-2018, 05:57 AM.** Since 2006 3 X Pro Pickem' Champion; 4 X Runner-Up and 3 X 3rd place.
** To download Jesus Loves Me ring tones, you'll need a cell phone mame
** If God doesn't fish, play poker or pull for " the Packers ", exactly what does HE do with his buds?
** Rather than love, money or fame - give me TRUTH: Henry D. Thoreau
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