PackerRats 1st Round Mock Draft

[pbmax]

Current Allocation -- Bills still available!

1 Cleveland Browns -- pbmax
2 New York Giants -- Guiness
3 New York Jets -- Zool
4 Cleveland Browns -- MrAynRand
5 Denver Broncos -- denverYooper
6 Indianapolis Colts -- Justin Harrell
7 Tampa Bay Buccaneers -- Cheesehead Craig
8 Chicago Bears -- Harvey's Wallbangers
9 San Francisco 49ers -- yetisnowman
10 Oakland Raiders -- esoxx
11 Miami Dolphins -- esoxx 2
12 Buffalo Bills -- Deputy Nutz
13 Washington Redskins -- Joemailman
14 Green Bay Packers -- poll
15 Arizona Cardinals -- Cheesehead Craig 2 (poster's second pick is available if we have enough people)
16 Baltimore Ravens -- woodbuck
17 Los Angeles Chargers -- bobblehead
18 Seattle Seahawks -- wthigoot
19 Dallas Cowboys -- Joemailman 2
20 Detroit Lions -- Deputy Nutz 2
21 Cincinnati Bengals -- Guiness 2
22 Buffalo Bills
23 New England Patriots -- Bretsky
24 Carolina Panthers -- wthigoot 2
25 Tennessee Titans -- bobblehead
26 Atlanta Falcons -- SudsMcBucky
27 New Orleans Saints -- woodbuck 2
28 Pittsburgh Steelers -- pbmax 2
29 Jacksonville Jaguars -- yetisnowman 2
30 Minnesota Vikings -- Justin Harrell 2
31 New England Patriots -- Bretsky 2
32 Philadelphia Eagles -- Harvey's Wallbangers 2

[pbmax]

OK, we are going to start. When you make the pick, PM the next three people on the list to help move this along. Sometimes we wait a couple days to get a pick in and while its understandable, a little forewarning or reminder should help shorten the timeframe.

Browns are on the clock with the 1st round pick!

[esoxx]

Someone PM pbmax, he's been on the clock for 50 minutes already!

[mraynrand]

Someone PM pbmax, he's been on the clock for 50 minutes already!

lol

[pbmax]

So, who is running things in Cleveland? I posit its actually the GM. And I think that has largely been true of each of the last eight GMs who worked here. Problem is, each of those GMs ran into some bumps, dumb decisions and intra-team fighting (usually the coach) and the owner has a ridiculously quick trigger finger. Imagine if Rodger Goodell, who manages the NFL by creating press releases and then reading Tweets about reporters reacting to the press releases, owned a team. He would hire and fire GMs while watching the concession sales quarter by quarter. If you aren't buying enough premium beer, Sashi Brown is going to lose his golden parachute.

But John Dorsey is an old horse, he isn't going to change for Haslam, and he knows if he gets canned in two years, his boiler plate football takes straight out of the 1980s NFL will keep him a respectable future employee. Wolf the Younger and Alonzo "Dilly Dilly" Highsmith will keep him focused on athletes with upside, but JD is going to want his team to look like other successful teams, from about 1994-2001.

That means a QB first and a RB, if it is to happen, second. Nothing will end a GM tenure than a lack of a credible QB. At least one drafted high enough that you can fool writers into thinking the only thing the team needs to unlock to be successful is to get the highly drafted young QB to play well. And that is never the GMs fault.

But which one? Dorsey isn't going to want to gamble on his lame duck HC to construct an offense for Lamar Jackson to succeed in (which might be his first dumb move because Jackson has serious physical talent and someone imaginative, like Doug Pederson, would probably beat Dorsey's team into submission with Jackson at QB making the same four throws all game long).

Someone wrote that Baker Mayfield's NFL comparison is Case Keenum. No one drafts Keenum in the first round.

Some teams would see Josh Allen as a diamond in the rough with a body and athleticism that will survive almost any offense. So if some other team were picking here, Allen makes sense despite his less that outstanding 2017 year. Physically he was the same guy, but the offense was gutted by graduation and he could not mask all the problems. He's going to get dinged by his inability to improve on pro characteristics like pocket awareness, play timing and pocket awareness.

Metrics guys point out that exactly 2 QBs with Allen's numbers for accuracy have panned out (Carson Wentz is one and I cannot remember the other-check back).

That leaves us with Sam Darnold and Josh Rosen. Rosen has been called NextGen Eli Manning. They weren't clear whether that was meant as a compliment. Darnold presents fewer worries that he might be thinking about things other than football which is normally a big concern for coaches. But the former Packer brain-trust has survived both Favre and Rodgers. They get that football smarts and extracurriculars can go hand in hand as long as you are fanatical about football in some way. Darold's mechanics are everywhere, another thing the Packers brain trust has worked through before.

Many are speculating that Darnold is the feint and Rosen is the pick. I disagree, I think the brain trust wants the upside that fixing his mechanics would bring.


With the 1st pick in the 2018 NFL Common Draft, the Cleveland Browns select: Sam Darnold, QB, USC

[pbmax]

Someone PM pbmax, he's been on the clock for 50 minutes already!

Sorry. Got interrupted by errands and dinner. Wanted to write an opus. Should have written a blurb.

Guiness is on the clock with the Giants.

[pbmax]

Picks

1 Cleveland Browns -- Sam Darnold, QB, USC
2 New York Giants -- Guiness
3 New York Jets -- Zool
4 Cleveland Browns -- MrAynRand
5 Denver Broncos -- denverYooper
6 Indianapolis Colts -- Justin Harrell
7 Tampa Bay Buccaneers -- Cheesehead Craig
8 Chicago Bears -- Harvey's Wallbangers
9 San Francisco 49ers -- yetisnowman
10 Oakland Raiders -- esoxx
11 Miami Dolphins -- esoxx 2
12 Buffalo Bills -- Deputy Nutz
13 Washington Redskins -- Joemailman
14 Green Bay Packers -- poll
15 Arizona Cardinals -- Cheesehead Craig 2 (poster's second pick is available if we have enough people)
16 Baltimore Ravens -- woodbuck
17 Los Angeles Chargers -- bobblehead
18 Seattle Seahawks -- wthigoot
19 Dallas Cowboys -- Joemailman 2
20 Detroit Lions -- Deputy Nutz 2
21 Cincinnati Bengals -- Guiness 2
22 Buffalo Bills
23 New England Patriots -- Bretsky
24 Carolina Panthers -- wthigoot 2
25 Tennessee Titans -- bobblehead
26 Atlanta Falcons -- SudsMcBucky
27 New Orleans Saints -- woodbuck 2
28 Pittsburgh Steelers -- pbmax 2
29 Jacksonville Jaguars -- yetisnowman 2
30 Minnesota Vikings -- Justin Harrell 2
31 New England Patriots -- Bretsky 2
32 Philadelphia Eagles -- Harvey's Wallbangers 2

[BZnDallas]

I'll take the Bills @ 22 if its still open.

[pbmax]

Picks

1 Cleveland Browns -- Sam Darnold, QB, USC
2 New York Giants -- Guiness
3 New York Jets -- Zool
4 Cleveland Browns -- MrAynRand
5 Denver Broncos -- denverYooper
6 Indianapolis Colts -- Justin Harrell
7 Tampa Bay Buccaneers -- Cheesehead Craig
8 Chicago Bears -- Harvey's Wallbangers
9 San Francisco 49ers -- yetisnowman
10 Oakland Raiders -- esoxx
11 Miami Dolphins -- esoxx 2
12 Buffalo Bills -- Deputy Nutz
13 Washington Redskins -- Joemailman
14 Green Bay Packers -- poll
15 Arizona Cardinals -- Cheesehead Craig 2 (poster's second pick is available if we have enough people)
16 Baltimore Ravens -- woodbuck
17 Los Angeles Chargers -- bobblehead
18 Seattle Seahawks -- wthigoot
19 Dallas Cowboys -- Joemailman 2
20 Detroit Lions -- Deputy Nutz 2
21 Cincinnati Bengals -- Guiness 2
22 Buffalo Bills -- BZnDallas
23 New England Patriots -- Bretsky
24 Carolina Panthers -- wthigoot 2
25 Tennessee Titans -- bobblehead
26 Atlanta Falcons -- SudsMcBucky
27 New Orleans Saints -- woodbuck 2
28 Pittsburgh Steelers -- pbmax 2
29 Jacksonville Jaguars -- yetisnowman 2
30 Minnesota Vikings -- Justin Harrell 2
31 New England Patriots -- Bretsky 2
32 Philadelphia Eagles -- Harvey's Wallbangers 2

[pbmax]

I'll take the Bills @ 22 if its still open.

Done.

[Guiness]

The New York Giants are on the clock at #2, and their decision comes down to this: how long have they got Eli for? The cupboard is bare behind him, and they know it.

The Giants decide to roll with the future HOFer for another year, and hope to land a diamond in the rough in later rounds. They also decide to follow a formula that got them their last 2 SB, looking to DL as opposed to any sort of offense.

The Giants select defensive end Bradley Chubb, NC State

[Anti-Polar Bear]

Who the fuck is wthigoot?

Welcome to the forum, dude.

Ps: Was too busy debunking the losers in FYI, so I forgot to sign up. Harlan also missed the deadline.

Wherefore art thou, Harlan?

[pbmax]

Who the fuck is wthigoot?

Welcome to the forum, dude.

Ps: Was too busy debunking the losers in FYI, so I forgot to sign up. Harlan also missed the deadline.

Wherefore art thou, Harlan?

Plenty of people have two picks, ask 'em.

[pbmax]

Picks

1 Cleveland Browns -- Sam Darnold, QB, USC
2 New York Giants -- Bradley Chubb, DE, NC State
3 New York Jets -- Zool
4 Cleveland Browns -- MrAynRand
5 Denver Broncos -- denverYooper
6 Indianapolis Colts -- Justin Harrell
7 Tampa Bay Buccaneers -- Cheesehead Craig
8 Chicago Bears -- Harvey's Wallbangers
9 San Francisco 49ers -- yetisnowman
10 Oakland Raiders -- esoxx
11 Miami Dolphins -- esoxx 2
12 Buffalo Bills -- Deputy Nutz
13 Washington Redskins -- Joemailman
14 Green Bay Packers -- poll
15 Arizona Cardinals -- Cheesehead Craig 2 (poster's second pick is available if we have enough people)
16 Baltimore Ravens -- woodbuck
17 Los Angeles Chargers -- bobblehead
18 Seattle Seahawks -- wthigoot
19 Dallas Cowboys -- Joemailman 2
20 Detroit Lions -- Deputy Nutz 2
21 Cincinnati Bengals -- Guiness 2
22 Buffalo Bills -- BZnDallas
23 New England Patriots -- Bretsky
24 Carolina Panthers -- wthigoot 2
25 Tennessee Titans -- bobblehead
26 Atlanta Falcons -- SudsMcBucky
27 New Orleans Saints -- woodbuck 2
28 Pittsburgh Steelers -- pbmax 2
29 Jacksonville Jaguars -- yetisnowman 2
30 Minnesota Vikings -- Justin Harrell 2
31 New England Patriots -- Bretsky 2
32 Philadelphia Eagles -- Harvey's Wallbangers 2

[pbmax]

Zool and the Jets are on the clock:

I miss Pete Rozelle.