Official Day 2 (Rounds 2&3) Of The 2018 NFL Draft Thread

[Anti-Polar Bear]

The first post is saying monumentally stupid stuff about the value of tackles, their skill level, etc. and the second is that the Packers have a poor track record drafting linemen in the first round.

Whatever. I'm too depressed to argue with you today.

[Anti-Polar Bear]

The San Francisco 49ers have traded offensive tackle Trent Brown and the No. 143 overall pick to the New England Patriots in exchange for the No. 95 overall pick, according to league sources.

Belichickism.

[mraynrand]

I doubt the Saints pick gets dealt. Gutey gushed about getting a second 1 for next year.

I'd hate it if they dealt that pick (unless for some great deal of course). There's a chance that it could be very valuable.

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I'd hate it if they dealt that pick (unless for some great deal of course). There's a chance that it could be very valuable.

Or there’s a chance it could be pick 30, 31 or 32

I was wondering if it wouldn’t be a bad idea to trade that pick to get to the top of the second and get Landry if they actually want him

[The Shadow]

Regarding the extra Round 1 pick for next year : Wolf had Favre, Thompson had Rodgers. Is Gute setting up 2019 draft capital to go after Rodger's eventual replacement? Just wondering....

[pbmax]

Belichickism.

I am beginning to think of Belichickism as taking low value players in the first round (RB, Guard) from friend's teams you just recently visited.

Chris B. Brown @smartfootball
Kinda interesting that the Patriots selected two players out of Georgia in the first round a month after Belichick spent time with Kirby Smart and Georgia's staff and spoke at the UGA coaching clinic

http://georgiadogs.com/news/2018/2/15/football-belichick-quinn-mcvay-highlight-uga-coaches-clinic-mar-29-31.aspx

[mraynrand]

Regarding the extra Round 1 pick for next year : Wolf had Favre, Thompson had Rodgers. Is Gute setting up 2019 draft capital to go after Rodger's eventual replacement? Just wondering....

maybe, but that pick came to him. He didn't go shopping.

2019 or 2020 draft will have to address the successor - unless the guy is already there (Kizer).

[beveaux1]

Or there’s a chance it could be pick 30, 31 or 32

I was wondering if it wouldn’t be a bad idea to trade that pick to get to the top of the second and get Landry if they actually want him

Not sure they actually want him. My guess would be a WR in the 2nd, trade a 4th and another pick to move back into the 3rd and select an OL. The 2nd and 3rd pick could be reversed. By the way, love your take on our safety situation. We had no thought about taking Derwin James. They're all in on Jones.

[mraynrand]

Or there’s a chance it could be pick 30, 31 or 32

I was wondering if it wouldn’t be a bad idea to trade that pick to get to the top of the second and get Landry if they actually want him

Well I've been told the value is lower this year because it's a promissory note, so why not get the full value next year. I suppose if someone wanted to trade a top 2nd round pick for the Saints draft pick straight up it would be reasonable, but I'm betting no one will make the deal. Any GM on thin ice doesn't want to make a trade to give away something this year for a pick next year. Except Sashi Brown, and see what happened to him.

[call_me_ishmael]

I'd hate it if they dealt that pick (unless for some great deal of course). There's a chance that it could be very valuable.

The dot connector in me believes it is a quality piece of ammo to trade-up for a quarterback if they fall in love with one.

[pbmax]

Daniel Jeremiah @MoveTheSticks
Was told Steelers wanted to address safety and RB...got the safety in Rd1. Interested to see when they draft the RB.

[Patler]

Regarding the extra Round 1 pick for next year : Wolf had Favre, Thompson had Rodgers. Is Gute setting up 2019 draft capital to go after Rodger's eventual replacement? Just wondering....

Absolutely, and it doesn't have to be in 2019. He will likely be able to trade one of the 2019 1st round picks for a 2020 1st round pick, then having two in 2020 instead of 2019. He could string that out until the stars align to package the two firsts one year, plus more if need be, to get a shot at the next great GB QB.

This was a very savvy first day for a neophyte GM. He engineered an opportunity to secure the long term success of the franchise by creating a future opportunity at a legitimate QB prospect; and still addressed a critical need with a top level prospect at a position of great need; and all it cost in practical terms was a third round pick. The round 5-7 picks are not unimportant, but success there is more from quality scouting and good luck than it is from draft position.

[Anti-Polar Bear]

Absolutely, and it doesn't have to be in 2019. He will likely be able to trade one of the 2019 1st round picks for a 2020 1st round pick, then having two in 2020 instead of 2019. He could string that out until the stars align to package the two firsts one year, plus more if need be, to get a shot at the next great GB QB.

This was a very savvy first day for a neophyte GM. He engineered an opportunity to secure the long term success of the franchise by creating a future opportunity at a legitimate QB prospect; and still addressed a critical need with a top level prospect at a position of great need; and all it cost in practical terms was a third round pick. The round 5-7 picks are not unimportant, but success there is more from quality scouting and good luck than it is from draft position.

More likely, the Packers trade up for the next hotshot OLB in '19. The Claymaker could be donning the orange and brown for the Browns at this time next season.

[mraynrand]

Daniel Jeremiah @MoveTheSticks
Was told Steelers wanted to address safety and RB...got the safety in Rd1. Interested to see when they draft the RB.

Mayock thot they wanted the Georgia Walkman, but maybe they will go for the other Chubb.

[Patler]

More likely, the Packers trade up for the next hotshot OLB in '19. The Claymaker could be donning the orange and brown for the Browns at this time next season.

That would be Sherman-like, and something I certainly hope not to see from Gutekunst.

A good GM always has to have one eye on the future and one on the present. A GM of a playoff team with a great, but older QB rarely gets the chance to draft a top flight QB prospect. You have to endure a a terrible season like the Colts with Manning/Luck, or things have to fall in place unexpectedly like the Packers with Favre/Rodgers. Gutekunst now has a chance to create his QB opportunity. That is not something to be frittered away on a second round draft pick.