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  • Originally posted by Joemailman View Post
    Oren Burks
    Outside linebacker
    SCHOOL: VANDERBILT | CONFERENCE: SEC
    HEIGHT/WEIGHT: 6-3 / 233 | 40: 4.59 | DRAFT YR:2018
    Rankings
    GRADE
    3.60
    PROJECTED ROUND
    3rd
    Bio:
    Four-year starter who played a different positions in each of his final three seasons at Vanderbilt. Made 82 tackles (seven for loss) with one interception, one sack and three pass breakups as an inside linebacker in 2017. Posted 59 tackles (6.5 for loss), one interception, three sacks, one forced fumble and six PBUs as a junior while playing a hybrid linebacker/safety role. Played free safety in 2015 and led the team with three interceptions while recording 59 tackles, one forced fumble and six pass breakups. Started seven games as a redshirt freshman and made 37 tackles with a team-high seven PBUs.
    Pos:
    Athletic run-and-chase linebacker with an underrated game. Fluid, covers a lot of area on the field and shows speed laterally. Quickly gets out to the sidelines in pursuit, flies around the action and sells out to make tackles. Forceful upfield on the blitz, nicely redirects to the ball carrier and gives effort against the run. Leads by example and has shown consistent progress.
    Neg:
    Lacks great bulk and strength. Handled by blockers and engulfed at the point. Does not consistently bring ball carriers down at the point of contact. Occasionally misreads the action.
    Analysis:
    Formerly a defensive back, Burks nicely made the transition to linebacker and has shown continual improvement. He offers adequate size and growth potential and is a multi-scheme linebacker with potential as a three-down defender.


    Where did you get that?
    Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.

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    • Originally posted by Joemailman View Post
      Gutey will trade 4 round pick (101 from Cleveland), 5th round pick (138), and 6th round pick (174), for Carolina's second 3rd round pick (88).
      Well, I was close. He traded both 4th's for the 88th pick.
      I can't run no more
      With that lawless crowd
      While the killers in high places
      Say their prayers out loud
      But they've summoned, they've summoned up
      A thundercloud
      They're going to hear from me - Leonard Cohen

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      • Originally posted by pbmax View Post
        I can't see him surviving at OLB in a 3-4, even a 3-4 hybrid. He has to play off the ball, doesn't he?

        You stick him in there to replace Ryan and put some speed off the ball.
        Looks like another pick to cover TT pick Ryan.
        One time Lombardi was disgusted with the team in practice and told them they were going to have to start with the basics. He held up a ball and said: "This is a football." McGee immediately called out, "Stop, coach, you're going too fast," and that gave everyone a laugh.
        John Maxymuk, Packers By The Numbers

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        • Originally posted by pbmax View Post
          Where did you get that?
          http://draftanalyst.com/oren-burks
          I can't run no more
          With that lawless crowd
          While the killers in high places
          Say their prayers out loud
          But they've summoned, they've summoned up
          A thundercloud
          They're going to hear from me - Leonard Cohen

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          • I would have rather had the guy that just went to New Orleans, Tre'Quan Smith, or a handful of other WRs. This was the spot to find value at WR. Deon Cain, ESB, Smith, DaeSean Hamilton would have all been good value there at a bigger need position.

            Can we bring back some of the scouts that we've lost over the years?
            "There's a lot of interest in the draft. It's great. But quite frankly, most of the people that are commenting on it don't know anything about what they are talking about."--Ted Thompson

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            • Originally posted by Joemailman View Post
              Well, I was close. He traded both 4th's for the 88th pick.

              Brilliant
              TERD Buckley over Troy Vincent, Robert Ferguson over Chris Chambers, Kevn King instead of TJ Watt, and now, RICH GANNON, over JIMMY JIMMY JIMMY LEONARD. Thank you FLOWER

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              • Originally posted by pbmax View Post
                I can't see him surviving at OLB in a 3-4, even a 3-4 hybrid. He has to play off the ball, doesn't he?

                You stick him in there to replace Ryan and put some speed off the ball.
                He's not an OLB. He's a weakside ILB in a 3-4.
                "There's a lot of interest in the draft. It's great. But quite frankly, most of the people that are commenting on it don't know anything about what they are talking about."--Ted Thompson

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                • Originally posted by Maxie the Taxi View Post
                  Looks like another pick to cover TT pick Ryan.
                  He can't be there for 3 downs unless you go 4-3 and he plays Will like harv said.

                  Almost more likely that he plays safety. He started as a DB. Dime linebacker basically. The new Joe Thomas.
                  Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.

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                  • Is this the highest draft choice used on an ILB since Hawk?

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                    • Originally posted by Joemailman View Post
                      Well, I was close. He traded both 4th's for the 88th pick.
                      Yuck! To move up 13 spots to overdraft an ILB.
                      "There's a lot of interest in the draft. It's great. But quite frankly, most of the people that are commenting on it don't know anything about what they are talking about."--Ted Thompson

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                      • Originally posted by HarveyWallbangers View Post
                        He's not an OLB. He's a weakside ILB in a 3-4.

                        I can't see him surviving, but Pettine's scheme might look different.
                        Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.

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                        • you sure we gave up two 4ths for a 3rd ? That seems to be a fleecing. Horrible value .

                          It seems both the NFL Network and ESPN has no highlights of him; from what I see he has not been highlighted at all
                          TERD Buckley over Troy Vincent, Robert Ferguson over Chris Chambers, Kevn King instead of TJ Watt, and now, RICH GANNON, over JIMMY JIMMY JIMMY LEONARD. Thank you FLOWER

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                          • Originally posted by beveaux1 View Post
                            What did we trade for this pick?
                            Too much, whatever it was. This was a shit pick.

                            Very "meh" first draft fot Gutey.
                            "The Devine era is actually worse than you remember if you go back and look at it."

                            KYPack

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                            • Originally posted by pbmax View Post
                              He can't be there for 3 downs unless you go 4-3 and he plays Will like harv said.

                              Almost more likely that he plays safety. He started as a DB. Dime linebacker basically. The new Joe Thomas.
                              Yes. A taller Joe Thomas -- which wouldn't be bad, but to use two 4th round picks on it is questionable to me. It's almost like they convinced themselves they had to move up into the 3rd round with all of their extra picks.

                              I wish they could have traded up a little further for Michael Gallup.
                              "There's a lot of interest in the draft. It's great. But quite frankly, most of the people that are commenting on it don't know anything about what they are talking about."--Ted Thompson

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                              • Originally posted by HarveyWallbangers View Post
                                Yuck! To move up 13 spots to overdraft an ILB.
                                Sorry to say but this was a Shermanesque type draft move. Not good.

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