Official 2019 Draft Thread

[bobblehead]

Holy Jeebus.

Chase Goodbread @ChaseGoodbread
CB Lonnie Johnson of Kentucky said the #Seahawks put him in a staring contest lasting "15, 16 seconds" during his formal interview with them. Said he won. Couldn't recall the name of who he went against.
#NFLCombine

Someone once said the NFL is a multi-billion dollar business run by dopes. They were being unkind to dopes.

Its a horrible strategy as people with high character and moral fiber who know who they are don't like being attacked anymore than crybabies. Unless you truly know the motive of the guy attacking, its impossible not to be offended. He could be seeing if you will stand up for yourself in which case going back at them is correct. He could be seeing if you are easily annoyed in which case its the wrong approach. In any event it tells you very little.

[Deputy Nutz]

Neither Perry nor Matthews have great hands in pass rush. Perry has heavy hands and his bull rush (when healthy) is admirable, but he doesn't get off it quickly.

Matthews had a better bull rush than his body type should allow, but same situation. He only gets free if the QB has to move and Matthews can surprise the tackle.

If the Packers had one guy who constantly forced the QB to adjust his drop, Perry and Matthews would be double digit sacks again on secondary cleanup*. But they don't have that guy anywhere. Daniels and Clark are to infrequently getting that kind of penetration. I was hoping Muhammed would do it, but his days as a feared pass rush are probably gone.


*This is where a speed outside guy can help. If Melvin Ingram or Bosa beat the tackle wide and can force the QB to step up, it gets three other rushers closer to him and puts their blockers in jeopardy.

You just posted the stat in another thread that Daniels was 3rd or 4th in the league with QB pressures, and now you say that he wasn't consistent enough.

[Fritz]

Day 4

Devin Bush LB, Michigan
Films: Notre Dame, Penn St.
First Take: He is thick. At 5'11" he has the right build for an ILB or WLB in a 4-3. Now that his combine numbers are out, you can see that his speed does translate to the field. He looks good in coverage against RB out of the backfield and understands his zone principles pretty well. He is a decent blitzer especially when he comes off the edge in a disguised blitz scheme. When he comes up the middle I would like to see him use his hands more and become a pass rusher instead of just running into blockers. Bush could play all three downs in the NFL. I think the NFL run game will be easier for him than the college game which is big on the zone read scheme. My opinion an NFL team will draft him to be a starter day 1 of camp.
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From what I watched of Michigan this year, I think this guy will be a big player in the NFL. He is strong and aggressive and pretty quick, too. His biggest problem was with dumb penalties - late hits and the like. But the guy is not only physically gifted, he's a football player, and a mean one. I'd be happy if the Packers drafted him - unlike Rashan Gary, who I think was more hype than production.

[Cheesehead Craig]

I guess Polite also bailed on the rest of the Combine, claiming a hammy injury which has many claiming bullshit, as it is more felt he's just taking his ball and going home. I guess he put on bad weight as well per the scouts. He also stated he doesn't watch film of himself. Overall, a horrible job interview.

[pbmax]

You just posted the stat in another thread that Daniels was 3rd or 4th in the league with QB pressures, and now you say that he wasn't consistent enough.

Packers had 44 sacks which was eighth in the League but only 4 above average. The pass rush did not seem even average to me, but its possibly the bad pass D in the backend is fooling me.

Daniels with a 14% pressure rate might be as good as you can expect without a first round All Pro. It just looks like its not enough, or you need two of them at that rate.

Or perhaps my theory is full of holes and the edges are just lower than mediocre.

[pbmax]

From what I watched of Michigan this year, I think this guy will be a big player in the NFL. He is strong and aggressive and pretty quick, too. His biggest problem was with dumb penalties - late hits and the like. But the guy is not only physically gifted, he's a football player, and a mean one. I'd be happy if the Packers drafted him - unlike Rashan Gary, who I think was more hype than production.

Twitter was having a war over this guy over the weekend. Tape eaters suggested he had problems covering sideline to sideline.

Twitter scouts were gleeful over his speed tests.

What say you Fritz, is he functionally fast enough to get wide during a play?

[pbmax]

Rock Ya-Sin

Matt Miller @nfldraftscout
4.51 official for Rock Ya-Sin. Think we need to get him in that late 1st convo.

Ian Rapoport @RapSheet
Ian Rapoport Retweeted Matt Miller
Talked to a GM last night who was most interested in his wrestling background, a two-time state champ. Sounds like he interviewed well, too.


4.51 or 4.52 (have seen both reported) 40 at CB in the first round? He is 6' 2".

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i watched a couple "vs" vids of rashan Gary because i've seen him mocked to us in a couple of places

talk about a guy that looks like a JAG, there doesn't seem to be anything special about him

he sure has hell doesn't play like a guy that can run a 4.58

he doesn't show much strength fora guy that weighs 277

and worst of all, he gave up on a ton of plays way too early when he was within 5 yards of the ball

he's a solid "no" from me

[RashanGary]

Looks like a lot of good players in this draft. Good athletes with production at bigger schools. Just a really good draft year.

[Deputy Nutz]

Day 5

Jaylon Ferguson Edge, Louisiana Tech
Films: FAU, Mississippi St.

First Take: Like most pass rushers this guy starts out slow in the beginning of games. I like his change of direction, he doesn't just lock on when his first pass rush attempt goes South. He doesn't have the best first step in the draft but it isn't terrible. He does a better job than a lot of the other edge rushers reading blocks instead of just flying up field or looking in the backfield. I don't think he is a first day selection but Ferguson could go any where early on day 2 to the end of day 2. Most of these edge rushers will be off the board on day 1 of the draft, he is the top of the 2nd tier guys. Doesn't seem to get fooled easily, but his down the line pursuit isn't great, his pursuit downfield is boarder line acceptable. Seems like Ferguson was playing with a bad knee in the two games I watched. He uses his hands adequately but doesn't just rely on winning on his hands, Ferguson has good hips and bend.

[Anti-Polar Bear]

Day 5

Jaylon Ferguson Edge, Louisiana Tech

First Take: Like most pass rushers this guy starts out slow in the beginning of games. I like his change of direction, he doesn't just lock on when his first pass rush attempt goes South. He doesn't have the best first step in the draft but it isn't terrible. He does a better job than a lot of the other edge rushers reading blocks instead of just flying up field or looking in the backfield. I don't think he is a first day selection but Ferguson could go any where early on day 2 to the end of day 2. Most of these edge rushers will be off the board on day 1 of the draft, he is the top of the 2nd tier guys. Doesn't seem to get fooled easily, but his down the line pursuit isn't great, his pursuit downfield is boarder line acceptable. Seems like Ferguson was playing with a bad knee in the two games I watched. He uses his hands adequately but doesn't just rely on winning on his hands, Ferguson has good hips and bend.

What's his 40? 7.9? Holy fuck, the dude looks like a fucking sloth in the vids you provided. And he's skinny as shit for an OLB. Gonna need to get fatter in the Big Boys League, and that's probably gonna slow him down even more.

I say, let the Queens draft him.

[Deputy Nutz]

Day 5

DeAndre Walker Edge, Georgia
Films: Alabama SEC Champ, Tennessee

First Take: The guy isn't great at anything. He is an undersized edge player either in a 3-4, or 3-4 over front. He simply doesn't have the bulk to play at the line of scrimmage with any consistency. Walker is a high motor kid that runs all over the field. He struggles to hold the edge on power, and gets engulfed on anything that is not a speed rush off the edge. He does have a feel for dual pressure blitzes where he is not always coming off the edge. He can drop into coverage and his technique looks good but his awareness is a little suspect . Walker can do a bit of every thing, but like I said Walker is great at nothing. 2018 was his first year starting for the Bulldogs. He was a highly recruited kid coming out of high school and his athleticism just never materialized on the field. He will probably get drafted higher than he deserves coming from Georgia, and the workout numbers will be decent even though they have yet to be completed by Walker as he didn't work out at the combine. I would think a late 3rd round to 4th round grade on him.

[Deputy Nutz]

What's his 40? 7.9? Holy fuck, the dude looks like a fucking sloth in the vids you provided. And he's skinny as shit for an OLB. Gonna need to get fatter in the Big Boys League, and that's probably gonna slow him down even more.

I say, let the Queens draft him.

He is 6-5 260,

[pbmax]

Packerwire: https://packerswire.usatoday.com/201...uting-combine/

EDGE Brian Burns, Florida State
Sweat stole the show Saturday, but Burns wasn’t far behind. He showed up in Indianapolis at 6-5 and 249 pounds – adding possibly 20 pounds to his frame since the end of Florida State’s season – and still ran 4.53 in the 40 and 7.01 in the three-cone. He was most impressive in the on-field positional drills, where Burns moved around more like a cornerback than an edge rusher. He could be the perfect hybrid outside linebacker for Packers defensive coordinator Mike Pettine.

That can't be good weight, but then his on field drills were OK. I am hoping 20+ pounds is a high guesstimate.

[Anti-Polar Bear]

He is 6-5 260,

Are we watching the same films? Ferguson looks like a “Nitro” safety but runs like Josh Sitton. Watch how slothly the dude attacks the ball carrier.

I think his lack of speed will hinder him off the edge against NFL tackles, even against Jason Spriggs, the pie-fucker in American Pie. If Ferguson is indeed 260, he oughta gain 20 or so lbs and play the 5 technique or something.