Official 2019 Draft Thread

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https://thedraftnetwork.com/2018/12/...e-rashan-gary/

These guys list Gary as an Edge defender, but say he is best suited as a 3T. That would fit in well with Pettine's desire to have guys who can rush the passer from inside, but is he stout enough to play on the line against he run?

I call bullshit on scouting in general. Linear angles? WHAT!?

What is the other kind of D line leverage; quadratic curves?

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If Fritz and wist don't like him, I almost am convinced he will be actively terrible.

And drafted by the Packers.

[wthigoot]

That Josh Allen guy from Kentucky - I think that's his name - looks super-quick, but he also looks light, like he gets pushed around a lot.

Reminds me of Kabeer Gbaja-Biamila (KGB), the old Packers 'tweener who had a few good years in Green Bay. I believe he was a fourth or fifth round pick in the early 2000's. Had a couple of 13-sack years. Pass rush specialist.

This is an interesing comparison as he is almost exactly the same height/weight as KGB, but KGB played 4-3 DE and Allen would play 3-4 OLB. KGB took a couple of years to get started but Allen might be able to get sacks right away; as you say, not sure about him holding the edge on run downs.

In three years Josh Allen could sack Josh Allen when GB plays BUF.

[denverYooper]

I call bullshit on scouting in general. Linear angles? WHAT!?

What is the other kind of D line leverage; quadratic curves?

Imagine if a scout and a wine reviewer had a child...

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Imagine if a scout and a wine reviewer had a child...

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Brent Sobleski @brentsobleski
Offensive line draft picks are never sexy, yet seven offensive tackles--

Jonah Williams,
Greg Little,
Cody Ford,
Yodny Cajuste,
Jawaan Taylor,
Dalton Risner
and Andre Dillard

--display first-round traits/ability. A couple may switch positions, but it's a talented group.

[mraynrand]

Imagine if a scout and a wine reviewer had a child...

"AJ Hawk has a delicate nose of moderate length"

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Matt Miller @nfldraftscout
Today’s hot take: Juan Thornhill is better than a lot of the bigger named safeties in this class. Round 2 player.

Virginia, I looked it up.

[wist43]

Haven't looked at too many guys yet, but of those I have...

Don't like Jeffery Simmons, and can't figure out what all the fuss is for Josh Allen. Simmons plays too upright and gets locked up too easily, and Allen doesn't get off blocks like someone who is being considered at the top of the draft.

Some guys I liked...

Devin White, love this guy. He is my leader in the clubhouse at this early stage. Really like Polite as well. Another guy is Christian Wilkins - sacrilegious I know - but he kind of reminds me of Reggie White in how he moves and plays the game.

Another guy I like, but he doesn't have the measurables is Ed Oliver. Only 275 LBS for an interior player... I've seen mocks of him in the top 5, down into the 20's... just not sure he could fit.

Long way to go, will keep looking.

[Joemailman]

Haven't looked at too many guys yet, but of those I have...

Don't like Jeffery Simmons, and can't figure out what all the fuss is for Josh Allen. Simmons plays too upright and gets locked up too easily, and Allen doesn't get off blocks like someone who is being considered at the top of the draft.

Some guys I liked...

Devin White, love this guy. He is my leader in the clubhouse at this early stage. Really like Polite as well. Another guy is Christian Wilkins - sacrilegious I know - but he kind of reminds me of Reggie White in how he moves and plays the game.

Another guy I like, but he doesn't have the measurables is Ed Oliver. Only 275 LBS for an interior player... I've seen mocks of him in the top 5, down into the 20's... just not sure he could fit.

Long way to go, will keep looking.

I've seen a lot of mocks that have Packers taking Polite at #12. That's also about where he's listed on a lot of boards. Seeing White from mid-teens to late 20's. Would be sweet if Gutey found a way to get them both.

[wist43]

I've seen a lot of mocks that have Packers taking Polite at #12. That's also about where he's listed on a lot of boards. Seeing White from mid-teens to late 20's. Would be sweet if Gutey found a way to get them both.

Pretty sure White will be gone in the top 10... if he's there at 12 it will be b/c some of the loser franchises traded up to get QB's that will invariably bust.

That's the only scenario I see White dropping that far. Yes he plays inside, but he is just a beast in there. He's the kind of player that will make those around him better.

[Joemailman]

Pretty sure White will be gone in the top 10... if he's there at 12 it will be b/c some of the loser franchises traded up to get QB's that will invariably bust.

That's the only scenario I see White dropping that far. Yes he plays inside, but he is just a beast in there. He's the kind of player that will make those around him better.

Bears took Roquan Smith at #8. I'm not sure yet if White is seen as that caliber of player.

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Shrine Game heights, weights, hand size and favorite authors

http://rotoworld.com/articles/cfb/85744/351/shrine-week-measurements

[mraynrand]

Shrine Game heights, weights, hand size and favorite authors

http://rotoworld.com/articles/cfb/85...k-measurements

I clicked for the favorite authors

[Fritz]

Pretty sure White will be gone in the top 10... if he's there at 12 it will be b/c some of the loser franchises traded up to get QB's that will invariably bust.

That's the only scenario I see White dropping that far. Yes he plays inside, but he is just a beast in there. He's the kind of player that will make those around him better.

I think Mel Kiper's first mock has White going to Detroit at #8. Maybe Bob Quinn is trying to make up for his very AJ Hawk-like pick of Jarrad Davis a couple years ago in the first round.