Official 2019 Draft Thread

[run pMc]

My hope is they take two edgies in the hope of hitting big on one. They really need to shore up that position that has been woefully inept since 2014ish.

Agree. They need to draft a couple of them, and I think they will as they've done recently with RB (Williams, Jones, Mays) and WR (Moore, MVS, ESB) and twice with CB (R&R, Jaire&Jackson). Pettine can manufacture pressure from a lot of places but if Clay walks and Perry's cut you have basically nothing out there except Fackrell's career tryhard year to point to.

I could see them going with an EDGE at pick 12 and then going back to it on Day 2 & 3. They need to shore up the right side of the OL and draft at least one decent Safety (and probably sign a veteran).

[wist43]

Agree. They need to draft a couple of them, and I think they will as they've done recently with RB (Williams, Jones, Mays) and WR (Moore, MVS, ESB) and twice with CB (R&R, Jaire&Jackson). Pettine can manufacture pressure from a lot of places but if Clay walks and Perry's cut you have basically nothing out there except Fackrell's career tryhard year to point to.

I could see them going with an EDGE at pick 12 and then going back to it on Day 2 & 3. They need to shore up the right side of the OL and draft at least one decent Safety (and probably sign a veteran).

White is #1 on my wishlist as of now... a lot of teams have Burns as a 2nd rounder, he might still be there with the 30th pick.

[Joemailman]

White is #1 on my wishlist as of now... a lot of teams have Burns as a 2nd rounder, he might still be there with the 30th pick.

Ratings and mocks are all over the place right now. One that came out today had Raiders taking Burns at #4, White at #24, and Packers taking Polite at #30. https://thedraftnetwork.com/2019/02/...ock-draft-5-0/

[RashanGary]

I really want an edge rusher too. It’s a deep year for edge rushers. Let’s hope! But who ever we draft, I really hope gute hits. We need a couple playmakers.

[pbmax]

Packers just need to trade Kizer to the Rams for Aaron Donald.

[wist43]

Ratings and mocks are all over the place right now. One that came out today had Raiders taking Burns at #4, White at #24, and Packers taking Polite at #30. https://thedraftnetwork.com/2019/02/...ock-draft-5-0/

I think most people have White as a top 10 player, Polite 10-15, and Burns 20-40.

Burns has big upside, but he's pretty raw. I like Polite better than Burns.

[run pMc]

I think most people have White as a top 10 player, Polite 10-15, and Burns 20-40.

Burns has big upside, but he's pretty raw. I like Polite better than Burns.

Agree.

Combine/Pro Day performances and background checks pending, yeah. Brian Burns at #4 (LOL Raiderz) might pan out long term but he is raw and needs NFL coaching/weight room. If he's there at #30 and Gute took him I could see it but even at #12 he'd be a bit of a reach. To be clear: I actually think he's a decent late R1/early R2 pick, and looks like that Sweat kid. Until about a week before the draft most of the mocks are going to look very stupid.

Does McGinn still do his draft writeups on that website of his? Generally those were pretty legit.

[pbmax]

Michael Cohen
Edge rusher (Jachai Polite), tight end (Noah Fant) and inside linebacker (Devin Bush) for the #Packers with their first three picks in Dane's latest mock draft. Thoughts?

Mock: https://twitter.com/dpbrugler/status...85515647193089

[Fritz]

Packers just need to trade Kizer to the Rams for a former cornerback who could transition to the safety spot and be a starter there.

FIFY

[pbmax]

Kizer and a fourth for Donald and Shields.

[pbmax]

Galaxy Brain:

Packers had 7th ranked offense in DVOA
Packers had 29th ranked defense in DVOA
Packers had 29th ranked special teams in DVOA

Drafting only defense has failed for years. Also not a fan of doubling up on a position in back to back rounds. Seems like you are taking action, but what you are doing is concentrating risk elsewhere.

Focus in offseason has to be D, especially in FA. But draft has to be more evenly distributed than it has in past few drafts. FA will might change that calculus, but they ignore offense at their peril.

Suggestion: resist the urge to do something dramatic on D like change entire draft strategy. Want to make a splash? Trade up with extra pick or sign a FA.

[run pMc]

Michael Cohen
Edge rusher (Jachai Polite), tight end (Noah Fant) and inside linebacker (Devin Bush) for the #Packers with their first three picks in Dane's latest mock draft. Thoughts?

Mock: https://twitter.com/dpbrugler/status...85515647193089

Depends on whether Devin Bush is an upgrade over Josh Jones or Oren Burks. He's supposed to be fast, but he's 5-11". Packers drafted D.J.Smith at about that size and he ended up pretty meh.

[run pMc]

Galaxy Brain:
Drafting only defense has failed for years. Also not a fan of doubling up on a position in back to back rounds. Seems like you are taking action, but what you are doing is concentrating risk elsewhere.

Focus in offseason has to be D, especially in FA. But draft has to be more evenly distributed than it has in past few drafts. FA will might change that calculus, but they ignore offense at their peril.

Suggestion: resist the urge to do something dramatic on D like change entire draft strategy. Want to make a splash? Trade up with extra pick or sign a FA.

A defense-only draft would deeply concern me. They need to add talent/replenish depth at some offensive positions through the draft, regardless of who they sign from FA.
I'd probably be ok if they went D with up to 2/3 of their picks, but I agree drafting same position with back to back picks is risky.

I will say in the case of Josh Jackson, some mocks had him going at #14, so I see that as more of a BPA/value pick in R2 than a pure need pick. If they ignore the OL or S in the 1st 3 rounds they are definitely doing so at their peril.

[pbmax]

A defense-only draft would deeply concern me. They need to add talent/replenish depth at some offensive positions through the draft, regardless of who they sign from FA.
I'd probably be ok if they went D with up to 2/3 of their picks, but I agree drafting same position with back to back picks is risky.

I will say in the case of Josh Jackson, some mocks had him going at #14, so I see that as more of a BPA/value pick in R2 than a pure need pick. If they ignore the OL or S in the 1st 3 rounds they are definitely doing so at their peril.

I kinda expect Jackson fell for the reasons we saw last year. Little too grabby for the pros, much better in zone than man. Very raw.

I get the value idea and I am on board for a BPA draft.

But if Jackson protects as a zone corner only and we are a man defense, then immediately you have a problem. And if the idea was that he will play safety, what was last year?

If you are going to double up and do value, you have to be committed to a plan that makes the pick succeed. Not sure that is the spot for a scheme misfit.

I am sure they felt he could adapt. But that might not be good enough to double up.

[wist43]

A defense-only draft would deeply concern me. They need to add talent/replenish depth at some offensive positions through the draft, regardless of who they sign from FA.
I'd probably be ok if they went D with up to 2/3 of their picks, but I agree drafting same position with back to back picks is risky.

I will say in the case of Josh Jackson, some mocks had him going at #14, so I see that as more of a BPA/value pick in R2 than a pure need pick. If they ignore the OL or S in the 1st 3 rounds they are definitely doing so at their peril.

The problem has been, for many years, the Packers as an organization have sucked at evaluating, developing, and utilizing defensive players.

It has been a cat chasing its tail misadventure since Wolf left.

If Gute has his shit together, we should see Edge and ILB filled early. My guess is OL, WR, and Fant will all be viable considerations at 30 and 44. White or Polite at 12.