Official 2019 Draft Thread

[pbmax]

The problem has been, for many years, the Packers as an organization have sucked at evaluating, developing, and utilizing defensive players.

It has been a cat chasing its tail misadventure since Wolf left.

If Gute has his shit together, we should see Edge and ILB filled early. My guess is OL, WR, and Fant will all be viable considerations at 30 and 44. White or Polite at 12.

But what tells you he has his shit together? Is Alexander enough?

[bobblehead]

Ratings and mocks are all over the place right now. One that came out today had Raiders taking Burns at #4, White at #24, and Packers taking Polite at #30. https://thedraftnetwork.com/2019/02/...ock-draft-5-0/

I do the same thing whenever I gather information. I look for common themes and consensus of information/opinion. GMs do their own thing though and like last year I said that if Derwin was there when we pick we have to grab him...instead SD got a stud. I can't complain, I like Alexander and I like having a #30 this year.

There is always a few shocks in the draft, but I can almost guarantee that Allen and Bosa are gone at 12, and that one of the others will still be there. Only way we don't take edge is if a) we trade down or b) the only 2 that gutes likes after the top 2 get taken ahead of us and he just isn't sold on any of the others. I am betting he likes someone at edge at 12.

[bobblehead]

Galaxy Brain:

Packers had 7th ranked offense in DVOA
Packers had 29th ranked defense in DVOA
Packers had 29th ranked special teams in DVOA

Drafting only defense has failed for years. Also not a fan of doubling up on a position in back to back rounds. Seems like you are taking action, but what you are doing is concentrating risk elsewhere.

Focus in offseason has to be D, especially in FA. But draft has to be more evenly distributed than it has in past few drafts. FA will might change that calculus, but they ignore offense at their peril.

Suggestion: resist the urge to do something dramatic on D like change entire draft strategy. Want to make a splash? Trade up with extra pick or sign a FA.

I definately agree you fill every hole you can in FA so you can draft BPA. Thing is we have enough holes that we should draft BPA regardless.

[pbmax]

I definately agree you fill every hole you can in FA so you can draft BPA. Thing is we have enough holes that we should draft BPA regardless.

I agree with this, but I guess I am adding a caveat. Don't duplicate position picks back to back.

[ThunderDan]

Quick 3 Round Mock at FanSpeak:
LB DEVIN WHITE LSU
TE T.J. HOCKENSON IOWA
S DEIONTE THOMPSON ALABAMA
EDGE OSHANE XIMINES ODU

White was available at 12 so passed on Edge nothing left at 30.

[texaspackerbacker]

I'd be well satisfied if it turned out that way. White is my top choice if he's available - greater need there than edge rusher. Ximines sounds better than a 3rd rounder, and I like Haakenson a little bit - not as much as some people in here. And Deionte Thompson, hasn't he been projected as a first rounder?

[wist43]

I agree with this, but I guess I am adding a caveat. Don't duplicate position picks back to back.

Change that avatar would ya??!! It's creepy...

[run pMc]

I agree with this, but I guess I am adding a caveat. Don't duplicate position picks back to back.

What if you have 2 R4 picks and you decide to draft a pair of OT's to challenge for the RG and RT?

I agree on the back-to-back picks when you're talking about R1-3. Once Day 3 rolls around it's less of an issue IMO.
You need at least 4 CBs to handle injuries or play dime defense, so I understand the need to draft a lot of them...but early picks on Randall/Rollins and then Alexander/Jackson is a lot to spend.

[Joemailman]

My Fanspeak Mock:

Perhaps unrealistic with the last pick.

12: R1P12 LB DEVIN WHITE LSU
30: R1P30 EDGE JACHAI POLITE FLORIDA
44: R2P12 RB JOSH JACOBS ALABAMA
75: R3P11 WR J.J. ARCEGA-WHITESIDE STANFORD
114: R4P12 TE ZACH GENTRY MICHIGAN
118: R4P16 S DEIONTE THOMPSON ALABAMA

[jklowan]

My fanspeak mock:

12: EDGE CLELIN FERRELL CLEMSON
30: S DEIONTE THOMPSON ALABAMA
44: G MICHAEL JORDAN OHIO STATE
75: OT YODNY CAJUSTE WEST VIRGINIA
114: TE JOSH OLIVER SAN JOSE STATE
118: LB TE'VON CONEY NOTRE DAME
151: DL DANIEL WISE KANSAS
187: LB KHALIL HODGE BUFFALO
195: TE DAWSON KNOX OLE MISS
228: CB SHELDRICK REDWINE MIAMI

[pbmax]

What if you have 2 R4 picks and you decide to draft a pair of OT's to challenge for the RG and RT?

I agree on the back-to-back picks when you're talking about R1-3. Once Day 3 rolls around it's less of an issue IMO.
You need at least 4 CBs to handle injuries or play dime defense, so I understand the need to draft a lot of them...but early picks on Randall/Rollins and then Alexander/Jackson is a lot to spend.

Less concerned with later picks. Talking mainly top 3. Certainly would not object to two non consecutive OL prospects in this draft.

My preference would be to move around to reset value/BPA so the duplicate position wasn't the only choice with the 1st-3rd round picks.

[wist43]

Okay... been looking at some guys. White is at the top of my wish list.

1(12) Devin White or Polite

1(30) If White? Burns. If Polite, maybe on OT (Little or Cajuste)

2(44) Marquise Brown, WR, Oklahoma

[Fritz]

A defense-only draft would deeply concern me. They need to add talent/replenish depth at some offensive positions through the draft, regardless of who they sign from FA.
I'd probably be ok if they went D with up to 2/3 of their picks, but I agree drafting same position with back to back picks is risky.

I will say in the case of Josh Jackson, some mocks had him going at #14, so I see that as more of a BPA/value pick in R2 than a pure need pick. If they ignore the OL or S in the 1st 3 rounds they are definitely doing so at their peril.

"Value pick" - now there's a term I can't stand. I think it's a term made up by people like Mel Kiper and Mike Mayock to rationalize why the guy they mocked #15 overall didn't go until the end of the second round.

[pbmax]

EDIT: this was in the wrong thread initially.

Polite: Is this impressive or desperate?

https://twitter.com/Sami_Thalji/status/909253328386887680

[red]

"Value pick" - now there's a term I can't stand. I think it's a term made up by people like Mel Kiper and Mike Mayock to rationalize why the guy they mocked #15 overall didn't go until the end of the second round.

Exactly, we’ll said