Official 2019 Draft Thread

[wist43]

Pray for and what and Jimmy Gee!

This guy simply looks like a waste of CAP.

He looks over cooked.

Hey WB, how ya been??

I don't see any TE's worth taking in the 1st round... maybe Fant in the 2nd, but certainly none of them are worthy of 1st round consideration IMO.

Some people have Hockenson going to us at 12... I would not be a happy packer camper if that happened.

I'm wanting White or Burns at 12... there are quite a few other guys I'd be okay with at 12, but not Hockenson, and not Metcalf.

[Deputy Nutz]

The Packers are committing a lot of money to the veterans at the TE position, I don't see a TE that is worthy of the 12th pick. I would hate the selection less and less with each pick after the 12th. I think Hockenson would be the most consistent, and Fant could have the highest ceiling as a pass catcher but I think the Packers have taken care of the depth chart with veterans at this point. I think I would rather see one of the top 4 receivers taken with the 30th pick before TE.

Foster Moreau does look intriguing on the 2nd or 3rd day of the draft. I think after the second round all the rankings we see as spectators get thrown out the window. Teams are willing to risk draft picks after round two on potential, hard to see rankings based on personnel observations from front office scouts.

[call_me_ishmael]

Interesting read.

https://www.profootballfocus.com/news/draft-why-rashan-gary-is-not-a-first-round-talent

Not sure how I feel about it. Worth a few minutes though.

[Deputy Nutz]

I would say the article is pretty dead nuts on Gary. His overall lack of production for his college career is concerning. Compare him to Bosa and it's comical.

[call_me_ishmael]

Well comparing anyone to a Bosa is freaking comical. They're Bosa's for a reason, and they're as close to a sure thing as you can.

It's interesting to compare and contrast with Ed Oliver, who doesn't have the measureables but does have the production. Me? Give me Oliver, but it's hard to argue with the freaky deaky athlete that Gary is. Not a lot like him.

[Deputy Nutz]

Gary and Bosa came into college at the same time and Gary was the better college prospect. That is the comparison.

[wist43]

Guess I need to add Gary to the list of guys I don't want at 12... Gary, Metcalf, Hockenson.

Actually, don't want them at 30 or 44 either.

[Deputy Nutz]

If Gary or Hockenson were there are 44 I would think to draft them.

[wist43]

If Gary or Hockenson were there are 44 I would think to draft them.

Gary, I'd just take him off my board... everyone can see the talent, but to have done exactly nothing with it to date is just too big of a red flag. If he hits, he hits; but I'd put his odds at less than 50/50. Dont want to spend that high of a pick on those odds.

Hockensen?? He's just not my type of TE. His body type, avg athlete, no special traits. Good football player, but not a guy with a high ceiling... I want the early round guys to have high ceilings.

[HarveyWallbangers]

Hockenson is more athletic than you give him credit for. His 40 was above average (not great), but he tested very well every else. He was 85+ percentile in every other drill (two were above 90) besides the 3 cone (which was still at 77). When you add in him being one of the best blocking TEs you'll see, he's intriguing. I still don't advocate taking a non-premium position at 12. I'd wait until 30 and see if one of the top 3 drops. There are also a few other TEs worth drafting in round 2 out 3. TE appears top heavy this year.

[Bretsky]

Hockenson would be a great pick at 30 but not 12

[wist43]

Hockenson would be a great pick at 30 but not 12

I agree we could use a TE, but that doesn't mean we need to jump early for a middling ceiling player. I see Hockenson as more of a 4th-5th round guy.

There are other players at other positions that have a chance to make bigger impacts.

I like Marquis Brown with one of those 2 picks... assuming he's healthy and the team thinks he can handle a decent workload. Risner or Lindstrom are 2 other guys I like in that area.

[Bretsky]

Wisty why the hate for Wisconsin badgers and white tight ends? I would love brown too. Hockenson is a good athlete and is the most complete tight end in the draft. Great route runner with decent speed who actually blocks. At a position where Green Bay has been painfully short of talent at

[Bretsky]

I would bet a brewski hocker is well gone by 30 and I agree I don’t want him at 12

[Fritz]

Gary, I'd just take him off my board... everyone can see the talent, but to have done exactly nothing with it to date is just too big of a red flag. If he hits, he hits; but I'd put his odds at less than 50/50. Dont want to spend that high of a pick on those odds.

Hockensen?? He's just not my type of TE. His body type, avg athlete, no special traits. Good football player, but not a guy with a high ceiling... I want the early round guys to have high ceilings.

I agree with you on Gary. He was supposed to be The Next Big Thing, but he was never consistently disruptive. Pass on him.