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  • Originally posted by wist43 View Post

    Would like to see Hanks there in the 3rd.

    Wist, Hanks runs a 4.98 40 yard dash. Unless he was injured or slipped during that, there’s no way he’s gonna play in the NFL

    Edit: he had a hamstring injury. He might be ok!
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    • I watched some Hanks. He looks good. I like Bush better. He’s short, but stocky, fast and tough.
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      • Originally posted by JustinHarrell View Post
        Look at Juan Thornhill. He seems to have a little Nick Collins in him
        Thornhill had some fantastic test out numbers at the safety position. I struggle to watch film on the secondary guys because of the television camera angles. Especially safeties, but his numbers are good.

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        • Originally posted by Deputy Nutz View Post
          Thornhill had some fantastic test out numbers at the safety position. I struggle to watch film on the secondary guys because of the television camera angles. Especially safeties, but his numbers are good.
          Athletic numbers and pass breakups and interceptions and plays behind the line too. Productive and athletic. He’s interesting. Secondary players more than any other spot, I think the production numbers like pass breakups and interceptions seem to really translate. I guess sacks for pass rushers too. But those things seem to count quite a bit.
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          • Ran 5 sims through the 4th round.
            1.
            1/12: Oliver DL Houston
            1/30: Risner OL K-St
            2/44: Wilson LB Alabama
            3/75: Hall WR Mizz U
            4/114: Harris RB Alabama
            4/118: Johnson S Miami

            2.
            1/12: White LB LSU
            1/30: Little OL Miss
            2/44: Rapp S Washington
            3/75: Ximines Edge Old Dom
            4/114: Harris RB Alabama
            4/118: Oliver TE SJ St

            3.
            1/12: White LB LSU
            1/30: Wilkens DL Clemson
            2/44: Risner OL K-ST
            3/75: Rapp S Washington
            4/114: Hall WR Mizz U
            4/118: Oliver TE SJ-St

            4.
            1/12: White LB LSU
            1/30: Sweat Edge Miss St
            2/44: Love CB ND
            3/75: Gardner-Johnson S Florida
            4/114: Piershbacher OL Alabama
            4/118: Boykin WR ND

            5.
            1/12: Bosa Edge Ohio St
            1/30: Little OL Mississippi
            2/44: Bush LB Michigan
            3/75: Gardner-Johnson S Florida
            4/114: Hall WR Mizz U
            4/118: Oliver TE SJ-St

            I targeted White with the first pick. The only time he was not selected when he was still on the board was when Bosa dropped in the fifth sim. So he was on the board 4 out of 5 times. Ferrell was on the board all 5 times with the first selection. I think it is a toss up between Oliver and Ferrell and I went with Oliver in the first sim. 4 out of 5 sims a safety worth drafting was there in the 3rd round. A sleeper in this sim is wide receiver Emanuel Hall out of Missouri. The guy has big time numbers, and his work outs were pretty good. I would question why he would be available in the 4th round when the actual draft happens. None of the first tier TEs will make it out of the 2nd round. I would imagine if one of the top 3 guys was there with the 2nd round pick the Packers would have to consider drafting TE. If the Packers want to go edge rusher, and take one of the top 4 or 5 guys they will probably either have to take him with their first pick. There is no way Sweat is dropping to pick 30 in this draft. I was also surprised to see Ximines drop in the 2nd sim to the third round, he is not as raw as some people think coming from a small school. He isn't as talented as the top 3 or 4 guys but he is right at the next tier of edge rushers.

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            • Originally posted by JustinHarrell View Post
              Athletic numbers and pass breakups and interceptions and plays behind the line too. Productive and athletic. He’s interesting. Secondary players more than any other spot, I think the production numbers like pass breakups and interceptions seem to really translate. I guess sacks for pass rushers too. But those things seem to count quite a bit.
              The College game has gone the way of the spread, and with the spread comes the quick passing game, the jail break screen, quick screen so pass rushing numbers are a little bit hard to translate to the next level. I can watch those guys, look at their get off, how fast their hands make contact, hip and knee bend as they turn the edge. They have to play so much faster at the college game to generate pressure.

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              • So this is making the rounds now re: Devin White https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-dV4t663pPQ

                Everything I've read says he's a very good player but he's not Roquan so he's probably a cut below and could be there at 12 unless someone buys the hype or the QBs don't get drafted. ILBs rarely go top 10, and with AJ Hawk we saw why.

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                • I like Gardner-Johnson out of FL from what I've seen. Seems like he can blitz, cover, and also play deep. If he's there in R3 i'll be surprised, and hoping Gute looks at him.

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                  • Originally posted by Deputy Nutz View Post
                    Thornhill had some fantastic test out numbers at the safety position. I struggle to watch film on the secondary guys because of the television camera angles. Especially safeties, but his numbers are good.
                    Looks like he studies film but occasionally takes a false step. Lean build, but isn't afraid to tackle or mix it up. Looks like he can run and at a minimum can be taught to improve his instincts. The ball skills are pretty good - I guess he has some background as a basketball player but isn't a Q.Rollins. I still like Gardner-Johnson better but as a mid-round pick you could do worse than Thornhill.

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                    • Originally posted by JustinHarrell View Post
                      I’m hoping for White or Oliver.

                      But I like burns too. He closes so hard! If he’s healthy, I can’t imagine a guy that long and explosive, fast and flexible not getting a bunch of sacks on the next level. With the two guys we have now, he could be a specialist for his first two years while he grows into his body. I can still imagine him getting 10 sacks even if he’s only in on probable pass downs.
                      You're plagiarizing, JH. These are things Drew Barrymore says about me.
                      "The Devine era is actually worse than you remember if you go back and look at it."

                      KYPack

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                      • Day 10

                        Emanuel Hall WR Missouri
                        Film: Florida, Wyoming



                        First take: Really fluid athlete, when he runs he has long strides but he is able to cut on a dime and turn defenders around. Hall can do the whole back shoulder catch thing pretty well, and he can go after the deep ball as well. His blocking isn't terrific but again you probably aren't drafting him within the first 90 picks to be a great blocker. Hall has excellent body control and awareness along the sideline. Has all the prototypical size and length, he is a plus on speed and a plus on his vertical jump.

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                        • Clips only on WSU LT Andre Dillard.
                          Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.

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                          • Originally posted by JustinHarrell View Post
                            Wist, Hanks runs a 4.98 40 yard dash. Unless he was injured or slipped during that, there’s no way he’s gonna play in the NFL

                            Edit: he had a hamstring injury. He might be ok!
                            He's faster than 4.98... he could be into the 2nd rd.
                            wist

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                            • Yeah, Hanks is faster than that. He's raw as all get out as a converted safety and the ILBs in this class might push him up, but if someone takes him R2 that would be a reach IMO.

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                              • Originally posted by red View Post
                                the whole breakdown

                                22% have brian burns
                                20% have Hockenson
                                14% have devin white
                                11% have ferrell
                                11% have sweat
                                8% have fant
                                11% have someone else

                                so thats a pretty good start for who we (the posters) should be looking at
                                I would be giddy with White or Sweat. I can live with Burns. Anyone else I want to trade back to 17-19 range and take Bush who is nearly equal to White in every way. 1" might mean a lot to my wife, but it doesn't sway me at ILB. Gotta grab him before Pitt at 20 though. I guarantee they take him if he is there at 20.
                                Last edited by bobblehead; 03-19-2019, 10:39 AM.
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