Official 2019 Draft Thread

[wist43]

I am all for trading down 5-10 slots. We need to fill a lot of holes with numerous picks and additional depth.

We have 1 hole in the starting lineup, and that is at safety.

I would like to see upgrades at ILB and TE, but we are reasonably solid everywhere in terms of fielding NFL caliber players.

Would also like to see more pass rush, even with the addition of the Smiths. At the other positions, we're anticipating 2nd and 3rd year jumps from some guys.

We're headed in the right direction.

[bobblehead]

No not Jonah. I was talking about Quinnen Williams. Sorry.

Well, no way in hell he is available at 12. If he were they should have alexander sprint to the podium with the envelope.

[bobblehead]

We have 1 hole in the starting lineup, and that is at safety.

I would like to see upgrades at ILB and TE, but we are reasonably solid everywhere in terms of fielding NFL caliber players.

Would also like to see more pass rush, even with the addition of the Smiths. At the other positions, we're anticipating 2nd and 3rd year jumps from some guys.

We're headed in the right direction.

Wist is optimistic. I give up. I Quit!! We don't have a 2nd starting WR and we don't have an NFL quality TE. RT is still a question mark because you simply can't bet on Bulaga being healthy. We also need another RB.

[bobblehead]

So I have talked about top 8, but I haven't really broken it down. Tell me if you agree or disagree:

Top players I would love at 12 (of course most definitely wont' be there.)

Quinten Williams
Nick Bosa
Josh Allen
Montez Sweat
Devin White
Ed Oliver
Brian Burns---So I guess there is only 7 for me.

Means that we need 5 of Kyler Murry, Rashaan Gary, DK Metcalf, Jonah Williams, Juwaan Taylor to get picked...maybe another QB or 2 if we are lucky.

Its going to be tough for us to get one of my choices to be honest. In light of processing the information a little more clearly I think a trade back to grab Devin Bush, Clellin Farrell, or TJ Hockenson might make the most sense if we get a fair offer. Also might allow us to trade up from 30 with built capital to grab a Risner or someone we like around 24ish.

[red]

Wist is optimistic. I give up. I Quit!! We don't have a 2nd starting WR and we don't have an NFL quality TE. RT is still a question mark because you simply can't bet on Bulaga being healthy. We also need another RB.

i don't know if i'd say we don't have a #2 wr

sure, i'd like a great player there too.

but geronimo hasn't looked bad when healthy, and theres a solid chance one of last years rookies takes a step up. ESB and MVS both showed some nice potential imo

[bobblehead]

i don't know if i'd say we don't have a #2 wr

sure, i'd like a great player there too.

but geronimo hasn't looked bad when healthy, and theres a solid chance one of last years rookies takes a step up. ESB and MVS both showed some nice potential imo

Allison is a JAG imo made to look serviceable by a great QB. And I don't bet on "theres a solid chance"

When the offseason started I said we had far too many holes to fill in one season. We have done a nice job so far, but still Q's remain. We are down to needing only 2-3 things breaking in our favor to have a shot. Thats a lot better than needing 6-7 things to break in our favor.

Bulaga stays healthy or spriggs steps up or rookie starts immediately. Rookie WR step up. Graham is only pretending to be old or we need a rookie to come in at a position rookies rarely come in at. I do think its likely we find a good 2nd RB or make due with what we have.

Maybe Jonah Williams or Taylor is the right pick at 12.

[Bretsky]

I've moved both Oliver and Burns ahead of White... still thinking about Bush at 30 - like I said, I like other position players in that area that are just as good, and we have more need.

You and red have been endlessly pumping this guy and now you dump his ass like a holy fackrell? And you are optimistic....who are you and where did wisty go ??????

[SMBASS]

I don't want Burns because I don't like these, "tweener" guys. He sure as heck isn't going to play a true DE hand in the dirt position at 235 lbs. and I don't know that he can transition to LB and play in space either. These guys flame out so often I wouldn't waste the pick. Jamal Reynolds anyone... Either pick a true D Lineman who can set an edge and rush the passer or pick a true OLB who can cover, play in space, and generate a pass rush. These guys tend to get swallowed up by real NFL tackles who have quickness, technique and can move their feet. Clay always had problems beating these guys one on one without any element of surprise and he's bigger and stronger than Burns.

Just my opinion but I wouldn't even consider him at 12.

[gbgary]

i don't know if i'd say we don't have a #2 wr

sure, i'd like a great player there too.

but geronimo hasn't looked bad when healthy, and theres a solid chance one of last years rookies takes a step up. ESB and MVS both showed some nice potential imo

i'll say it. i waffle daily about drafting O or D in the first round. a real #2 would sure be nice. the thing about geronimo is he can't stay healthy. the team seems to be trying to get away from guys who can't stay on the field. this is a prove it year for king in this regard. right now it's #2 by committee as it is with the slot guy. if someone doesn't put a strangle hold on both of those positions it may be another long year...especially if they don't make a concerted effort to throw to the backs and if rodgers doesn't get over his trust issues.

[wist43]

You and red have been endlessly pumping this guy and now you dump his ass like a holy fackrell? And you are optimistic....who are you and where did wisty go ??????

Lol... I like White just fine - would happy to get him at 12. I've just moved up on Burns and Oliver.

I think all 3 of those guys are legit disrupters. One reason I moved those guys ahead of White is Martinez. I'm not satisfied with Martinez, but he's at least serviceable in there.

I think Burns will continue to mature and grow into his frame, and his ceiling could be very high. Harder to find edge guys like that.

[Bretsky]

Lol... I like White just fine - would happy to get him at 12. I've just moved up on Burns and Oliver.

I think all 3 of those guys are legit disrupters. One reason I moved those guys ahead of White is Martinez. I'm not satisfied with Martinez, but he's at least serviceable in there.

I think Burns will continue to mature and grow into his frame, and his ceiling could be very high. Harder to find edge guys like that.

I do like white a lot but I would not trade up to get him. Short term he is the perfect fit for our needs. I think I like him more than Burns and about equal to Oliver. I would still lone a draft of white and then an edge who falls....maybe polite at 30 and then adderly at 44

[Bretsky]

Agree with bobble on allisonand would have been fine to see him go

[Bretsky]

Wait. Wist.... did I read that right? You like Martinez? I need an I’d check. Lol, next thing I know you’ll love o burns......wait....I have a test for you to see if you are the same person I knew. I would love it if Green Bay used their 4th or 5yh round pick on lb they Edwards, how would you feel about that ??

[wist43]

Wait. Wist.... did I read that right? You like Martinez? I need an I’d check. Lol, next thing I know you’ll love o burns......wait....I have a test for you to see if you are the same person I knew. I would love it if Green Bay used their 4th or 5yh round pick on lb they Edwards, how would you feel about that ??

No I dont like Martinez... I want to see him replaced; but, if it comes down to replacing Martinez or Fackrell, I'd take aim at Fackrell first.

Just trying to prioritize who gets moved off the roster first... I'm still me

[wist43]

I don't want Burns because I don't like these, "tweener" guys. He sure as heck isn't going to play a true DE hand in the dirt position at 235 lbs. and I don't know that he can transition to LB and play in space either. These guys flame out so often I wouldn't waste the pick. Jamal Reynolds anyone... Either pick a true D Lineman who can set an edge and rush the passer or pick a true OLB who can cover, play in space, and generate a pass rush. These guys tend to get swallowed up by real NFL tackles who have quickness, technique and can move their feet. Clay always had problems beating these guys one on one without any element of surprise and he's bigger and stronger than Burns.

Just my opinion but I wouldn't even consider him at 12.

I think Burns has a chance to turn into a beast... he put on about 20 lbs going into the combine, and still retained his speed and quickness.

As he matures, he'll fill out more.

I know Burns doesn't have the best tape of this class, but I think the needle is pointing up on him.