Official 2019 Draft Thread

[Joemailman]

I'm more and more convinced White will not be available when Packers pick. Tampa Bay passed on Roquan Smith last year, and I don't think they'll pass on White this year.

FWIW, NFL.com has 3 mocks. http://www.nfl.com/draft/2019/mock-drafts In all 3, White is taken before the Packers pick. Burns and Oliver are available to the Packers in all 3.

[bobblehead]

I'm more and more convinced White will not be available when Packers pick. Tampa Bay passed on Roquan Smith last year, and I don't think they'll pass on White this year.

FWIW, NFL.com has 3 mocks. http://www.nfl.com/draft/2019/mock-drafts In all 3, White is taken before the Packers pick. Burns and Oliver are available to the Packers in all 3.

Oliver is one of my 7. Would love for him to come in, be a rotational guy and then after a season in the NFL program take over for an aging Daniels.

Edit: I notice all 3 have Devin Bush going 11 to the Bengals. Wow...apparently I'm not the only one who sees him near equal to White.

[jklowan]

I think the top 2 LB's are gone anyone have an opinion on those that might be left Mack Wilson in the second of maybe Tevon Coney, TJ Edwards in the 4th or Khalil Hodge in the 6th all look athetic enough to me any thoughts
I am thinking Oliver,Ferrill and Risner are our options on the 1st two picks and am hoping if the miss on a pass rusher that anthony nelson is there in the 3rd 6 7" edge rusher hummm count me in

[pbmax]

Bulaga is a very very good player when he plays

Amazing how he slides in these worse than normal takes into a rant.

[Anti-Polar Bear]

Verba was solid

Wasn’t Verba the butt of everyone’s joke?

[RashanGary]

Oliver is one of my 7. Would love for him to come in, be a rotational guy and then after a season in the NFL program take over for an aging Daniels.

Edit: I notice all 3 have Devin Bush going 11 to the Bengals. Wow...apparently I'm not the only one who sees him near equal to White.

Yeah. Bush is a beast. Have a feeling he’s gonna play for a long time at a high level.

[Anti-Polar Bear]

Bulaga is a very very good player when he plays

WHEN he plays.

Bulaga is a china doll residing in a house of cards. Yes, a damn milksop.

[SMBASS]

Wasn’t Verba the butt of everyone’s joke?

Verba was the first ever rookie starting left tackle on a Super Bowl team and he later became a serviceable guard. He wasn't a 10 year All-Pro type player and even though you would have liked a little more from a 1st Rd selection he wasn't a complete bust either. He was definitely no Fn' Jason Spriggs or John Michels. In fact, Michels complete suckitude was the reason why Verba was taken the very next year in the 1st RD. Not exactly the best back to back 1st Rd OT selections taken by Wolf.

[Anti-Polar Bear]

Verba was the first ever rookie starting left tackle on a Super Bowl team and he later became a serviceable guard. He wasn't a 10 year All-Pro type player and even though you would have liked a little more from a 1st Rd selection he wasn't a complete bust either. He was definitely no Fn' Jason Spriggs or John Michels. In fact, Michels complete suckitude was the reason why Verba was taken the very next year in the 1st RD. Not exactly the best back to back 1st Rd OT selections taken by Wolf.

I wanted Todd to take Logan Mankins over that cocky QB from Butte, so what do I know about fat guys?

Seriously, I'm a firm believer in the classical notion that Peter Griffin could be plugged off the streets, and with some work on his mechanics, he would, at minimum, be solid as a rock.

If Gutekunst takes a fat guy or two (offensive lineman, defensive lineman) in the first round, I'm gonna boycott the Packers.

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Verba was the first ever rookie starting left tackle on a Super Bowl team and he later became a serviceable guard. He wasn't a 10 year All-Pro type player and even though you would have liked a little more from a 1st Rd selection he wasn't a complete bust either. He was definitely no Fn' Jason Spriggs or John Michels. In fact, Michels complete suckitude was the reason why Verba was taken the very next year in the 1st RD. Not exactly the best back to back 1st Rd OT selections taken by Wolf.

::: Very alarming buzzer sound here :::

Super Bowl GBP had an interesting year at LT, a rarity in those post Lawrence Taylor days. John Michels started 9 games and was ineffective. Gary Brown started 5.

Thanks for Saving Our Ass Award inaugural winner and the namesake for the trophy, Bruce Wilkerson, started 2 games in the regular season and solidified the position through the playoffs.

Ross Verba, selected out of Iowa in 1997, came into challenge Michels, a position neither really won, though Verba got more starts.

[Deputy Nutz]

Inside linebackers always seem to drop in the draft. I Think White is 1a and Bush is 1b. Not high on either one at 12. I don't see the big play capability from White, and I think Bush relies too much on his physical talents. Mack Wilson is a tier below those two but he would be a legit pick in the second round. He might not be there in the second.

The Packers drafted 3 young guys last year and kept them all on the roster.
St. Brown had 21 catches for 328 yards
J'mon Moore didn't do shit
MVS had 38 catches for over 500 yards.

My expectation is that MVS will be the #2 and Brown will compete to be the number 3 guy. Allison will be in competition for the two and the three. What the Packers truly lack is a slot. MVS, Allison, and Brown are all big outside guys. I would love to see the Packers cut Trevor Davis and look at drafting a Parris Campbell, or an AJ Brown type guy with the 30th or possibly with the second round pick. Deebo Samuel is also an option. He is in the same breath as the other two guys, he is built like a running back, he may not be as fast but he offers a little more toughness and power to the slot.

[Deputy Nutz]

Day 13?

TJ Edwards LB, Wisconsin
Films, Miami, Penn St,

First take: First Wisconsin guy I have broken down. Edwards was an extremely productive college football player. What I like about Edwards is that he has instincts and he understands what offenses are trying to do. He will at times over trust his reads, but at least you knows what his reads are. Edwards is a linebacker that puts himself in the right position to make plays. He takes on blocks well, doesn't get driven down field by linemen, and he punishes lead and kick out blocks. Edwards has some zone coverage abilities but he isn't going to run with a RB. The issues with Edwards is his athleticism. It's not great, more like adequate for a late 3rd to 4th round draft pick. In essence you are drafting Blake Martinez, maybe better, maybe a little worse. Edwards might be a three down linebacker in the NFL because he knows where to be and how to get there, but his tackling in space is going to get taken advantage of in the NFL. His reaction time and body control will be an issue as well. At his best he is going to be a very serviceable piece to a defense. He will get a 100 tackles in the NFL without trying, but there won't be a lot of other eye popping stats.

[Deputy Nutz]

Day 13

Germaine Pratt LB, NC St.
Films: Wake Forest, Clemson

First Take: Pratt opened some eyes during the combine with his testing numbers. He is sort of the opposite of TJ Edwards, has the athleticism but just isn't that dynamic of a football player. He is slow to react to what is in front of him, and this allows him to get swallowed up by offensive linemen on a very regular basis. He doesn't attack blockers, he takes on blocks flat footed and then has to give ground to get off the block. He cleans up a lot of tackles because he gets to the party a little too late on a regular basis. Where he could contribute at the next level is in a nickle or dime package. He is decent in coverage, and his best attribute is as a blitzer.

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Michael Cohen @Michael_Cohen13
Here at the annual league meetings in Arizona, #Packers GM Brian Gutekunst shared a cool story from the draft room on the night Ted Thompson selected Clay Matthews:

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Michael Cohen with Gutekunst