The Hole in the Cheese

[mraynrand]

I would very much like to read about just what/who are/are not doing well at the Right Offensive Guard and Right Offensive Tackle positions.

It seems they are happy with the performance of McCray so far at RG. Spriggs looks to be a RT and nothing else - Murph is LT backup. Have to watch the preseason games to be sure of anything.

[mraynrand]

more:

With veteran starter Bryan Bulaga working on the side while rehabbing his torn ACL, it’s become a three-man free-for-all at right tackle. With the first unit, there was a rotation with Jason Spriggs, Kyle Murphy and veteran Byron Bell.

“I like them,” offensive coordinator Joe Philbin when asked about Spriggs and Murphy on Wednesday. “I’ve seen signs from both guys of some really good things. Jason’s got, as we all know, really outstanding athletic skills and he’s got some twitch and quickness, whether it’s in the run game or the pass game. He gets off on the snap count really well and gets to the second level. He does some things really smooth. Kyle’s had a very good snap so far. These last couple days with the pads on, he’s really taken a step forward. It’s a competitive situation there at right tackle.”

[Zool]

That's pretty faint praise for Murphy.

[mraynrand]

That's pretty faint praise for Murphy.

"Kyle’s had a very good snap so far" lol

[pbmax]

Murphy was with the one's a day or two ago, but no indication is was significant or just rotation.

Bell is the guy who stonewalled Fackrell.

Rand is correct, McCray seems to be the guy at RG.

Bulaga back to practice on limited basis.

[Harlan Huckleby]

I think the backup QB position looks like a real Achilles heel.

The "who cares about the backup QB we're screwed anyway if Rodgers goes down" argument has been debunked in recent years. It is real common to need a backup QB for 4 or more games in a season.

[mraynrand]

I think the backup QB position looks like a real Achilles heel.

The "who cares about the backup QB we're screwed anyway if Rodgers goes down" argument has been debunked in recent years. It is real common to need a backup QB for 4 or more games in a season.

Yeah, but the 'backup comes in and leads us to the SB' happens about once in a generation too. I guess If there had been a more competent guy at the #2 spot, maybe they get to the playoffs with Rodgers ready to go. But that only kinda worked in 2013. Or, maybe Pederson is just a superior coach and the Eagles have a superior front office. Time will tell for them I suppose. I think we pretty much know what GB has organizationally.

Oh, and don't count out Kizer Söze yet. He may look lame, but I hear it's an act.

[Zool]

I think the backup QB position looks like a real Achilles heel.

The "who cares about the backup QB we're screwed anyway if Rodgers goes down" argument has been debunked in recent years. It is real common to need a backup QB for 4 or more games in a season.

Before the Eagles last year, when was it even challenged? Frank Reich?

[Harlan Huckleby]

Before the Eagles last year, when was it even challenged? Frank Reich?

So you're saying it's rare for a backup to take over mid season and win a super bowl?

Lots of other scenarios where backup QB can matter a lot.

[Zool]

So you're saying it's rare for a backup to take over mid season and win a super bowl?

Lots of other scenarios where backup QB can matter a lot.

The Vikings come to mind from last season. Before that I'm struggling to think of a team where the starter missed more than half the season and the team made the playoffs.

[pbmax]

You have to go back a ways to see a backup (a guy who was not going to be the franchise going forward) take a team to the Super Bowl.

Earl Morral was the king of this. Jeff Hostetler did it but he started for most of that season. And guys who were not the presumed starter (like Foles or Plunkett) often are recycled first round talents who couldn't make it work early in their career. The Vikings started five different guys for playoff runs but each was the starter for the majority of the year (Moon, Brad Johnson, Cunningham, George).

QB by committee due to injury (Browns with Danielson, Pagel and Strock starting for injured Kosar, or Flynn, Tolzien, Wallace for Rodgers) can get a good team to the playoffs but not much farther.

I'd say you are better off spending the money elsewhere if you have a franchise QB. Pickup young ones to backup the All Pro.

[Harlan Huckleby]

If you look at teams who make the playoffs, lots of them had to play some regular season games without the QB who started the season. Everybody knows how critical the QB position is in determining outcome of a game. The value of a backup QB is high - similar to value of a starter at some other positions.
Bringing up unusual situations like a backup winning 8 games or winning the Super Bowl muddies the water.

If the Packers start season with Harried Hundley in the bullpen it is a major chink in the armor.

[Harlan Huckleby]

I'd say you are better off spending the money elsewhere if you have a franchise QB. Pickup young ones to backup the All Pro.

Better be young ones who can win games.

[pbmax]

If you look at teams who make the playoffs, lots of them had to play some regular season games without the QB who started the season. Everybody knows how critical the QB position is in determining outcome of a game. The value of a backup QB is high - similar to value of a starter at some other positions.
Bringing up unusual situations like a backup winning 8 games or winning the Super Bowl muddies the water.

If the Packers start season with Harried Hundley in the bullpen it is a major chink in the armor.

But the important factor here is "some games" not the backup QB quality. Rodgers missed 7 games and 9 games. If those numbers are 5 and 7, the seasons look very different.

[Harlan Huckleby]

Hmmm

https://lombardiave.com/2018/08/06/packers-5-things-watch-preseason-opener/3/