The 53 Man Roster

[mraynrand]

He doesn't exactly suck; He's just taking up a roster spot and $10 million of salary cap when there are probably 6-8 better WRs fighting for too few spots and all of them together getting paid less than Cobb.

The other WRs with better speed or physical skills are totally raw. There's really no way to know right now that they'll be ready for the reg. season.

[pbmax]

Where does $10 mpy rank for WRs these days?

Its 20th.

Its a world where Sammy Watkins, Brandin Cooks, Alshon Jeffrey and Emanuel Sanders make more than he does.

https://overthecap.com/position/wide-receiver

[red]

Where does $10 mpy rank for WRs these days?

Its 20th.

Its a world where Sammy Watkins, Brandin Cooks, Alshon Jeffrey and Emanuel Sanders make more than he does.

https://overthecap.com/position/wide-receiver

thats a fun trick, using his total contract to make it not look so bad

he's actually counting 12.7 million against the cap this year, which is 8th highest in the nfl this season

8th highest for a guy who hasn't broken 830 yards and 6 tds in 3 years

8th highest for a wr who has only 1 thousand yard season in 7, and has also only had double digit tds once

[Fritz]

Damn, Red, you're sharp tonight.

[pbmax]

thats a fun trick, using his total contract to make it not look so bad

he's actually counting 12.7 million against the cap this year, which is 8th highest in the nfl this season

8th highest for a guy who hasn't broken 830 yards and 6 tds in 3 years

8th highest for a wr who has only 1 thousand yard season in 7, and has also only had double digit tds once

Objecting to one year out of the deal doesn't make sense. All deals vary year to year.

[mraynrand]

Objecting to one year out of the deal doesn't make sense. All deals vary year to year.

True, and Cobb is more experienced than the rookies/new guys at running straight out 7 yards, blanketed by a LB, standing around looking like an idiot until Rodgers starts scrambling for his life, then dancing around with hand raised to indicate he's 'open.' You need veterans who understand the offense.

[pbmax]

True, and Cobb is more experienced than the rookies/new guys at running straight out 7 yards, blanketed by a LB, standing around looking like an idiot until Rodgers starts scrambling for his life, then dancing around with hand raised to indicate he's 'open.' You need veterans who understand the offense.

Otherwise it will look like mass confusion and poor planning. M3 needs Cobb so he can maintain the facade of an "offense".

[texaspackerbacker]

Any mass confusion or the appearance of it is due to the pathetic O Line. You can run timing patterns or really routes of any kind if the QB is running for his life virtually every damn time. It's a miracle that Rodgers is as great as he is under those circumstances.

I was watching the Oakland feed of the game last night on NFL Network, and they were talking up how great Trgovac is as an O Line coach. I don't recall that he was any great shakes with the Packers. The difference is the GM procuring better talent, and we have the mediocrity Ted provided. Reggie McKenzie has apparently by skill or luck or whatever, provided Oakland with much more decent talent.

And they played up Ron Wolf too during last night's game. Did ya'all know, Ron Wolf was with the Raiders for 24 years! - in two stints, separated by a brief unsuccessful time with I think it was the Jets, all that before coming to the Packers ....... and now he is in the Hall of Fame. Why? Two reasons: The Favre trade, give him credit, I guess for that, although I'd say there was a large degree of luck also whether Favre was gonna become the superstar he did. The other thing Wolf did was sign Reggie White. I guess those two moves justify the Hall of Fame. He also gave us Ted and a culture of virtually never going after expensive free agent talent. Arguably, the Ted Thompson era would be a complete flop except for his one obvious success - will he end up in the Hall of Fame for drafting Aaron Rodgers? Who knows!

Anyway, in case ya'all who got the Packers feed on the game missed the Trgovac and Wolf stuff, I just figured I'd share that.

[mraynrand]

I was watching the Oakland feed of the game last night on NFL Network, and they were talking up how great Trgovac is as an O Line coach.

I somehow missed that one

[ThunderDan]

Any mass confusion or the appearance of it is due to the pathetic O Line. You can run timing patterns or really routes of any kind if the QB is running for his life virtually every damn time. It's a miracle that Rodgers is as great as he is under those circumstances.

I was watching the Oakland feed of the game last night on NFL Network, and they were talking up how great Trgovac is as an O Line coach. I don't recall that he was any great shakes with the Packers. The difference is the GM procuring better talent, and we have the mediocrity Ted provided. Reggie McKenzie has apparently by skill or luck or whatever, provided Oakland with much more decent talent.

And they played up Ron Wolf too during last night's game. Did ya'all know, Ron Wolf was with the Raiders for 24 years! - in two stints, separated by a brief unsuccessful time with I think it was the Jets, all that before coming to the Packers ....... and now he is in the Hall of Fame. Why? Two reasons: The Favre trade, give him credit, I guess for that, although I'd say there was a large degree of luck also whether Favre was gonna become the superstar he did. The other thing Wolf did was sign Reggie White. I guess those two moves justify the Hall of Fame. He also gave us Ted and a culture of virtually never going after expensive free agent talent. Arguably, the Ted Thompson era would be a complete flop except for his one obvious success - will he end up in the Hall of Fame for drafting Aaron Rodgers? Who knows!

Anyway, in case ya'all who got the Packers feed on the game missed the Trgovac and Wolf stuff, I just figured I'd share that.

You do know that all 5 starters on the OL did not dress, right?

[texaspackerbacker]

You do know that all 5 starters on the OL did not dress, right?

Would it have made a major difference? I doubt it, based on how even the starters generally play.

[Joemailman]

Any mass confusion or the appearance of it is due to the pathetic O Line. You can run timing patterns or really routes of any kind if the QB is running for his life virtually every damn time. It's a miracle that Rodgers is as great as he is under those circumstances.

I was watching the Oakland feed of the game last night on NFL Network, and they were talking up how great Trgovac is as an O Line coach. I don't recall that he was any great shakes with the Packers. The difference is the GM procuring better talent, and we have the mediocrity Ted provided. Reggie McKenzie has apparently by skill or luck or whatever, provided Oakland with much more decent talent.

And they played up Ron Wolf too during last night's game. Did ya'all know, Ron Wolf was with the Raiders for 24 years! - in two stints, separated by a brief unsuccessful time with I think it was the Jets, all that before coming to the Packers ....... and now he is in the Hall of Fame. Why? Two reasons: The Favre trade, give him credit, I guess for that, although I'd say there was a large degree of luck also whether Favre was gonna become the superstar he did. The other thing Wolf did was sign Reggie White. I guess those two moves justify the Hall of Fame. He also gave us Ted and a culture of virtually never going after expensive free agent talent. Arguably, the Ted Thompson era would be a complete flop except for his one obvious success - will he end up in the Hall of Fame for drafting Aaron Rodgers? Who knows!

Anyway, in case ya'all who got the Packers feed on the game missed the Trgovac and Wolf stuff, I just figured I'd share that.

That's some fascinating stuff considering Trgovac is, and was with the Packers a defensive line coach. I don't believe he's ever been an offensive line coach.

[Zool]

Would it have made a major difference? I doubt it, based on how even the starters generally play.

This is dumb even for you.

[texaspackerbacker]

That's some fascinating stuff considering Trgovac is, and was with the Packers a defensive line coach. I don't believe he's ever been an offensive line coach.

hahahaha I guess I heard wrong. I wasn't paying much attention, but I thought they were bragging up the Oakland O Line. Maybe it was D.

The Packers O Line still stinks, but with Rodgers, they can win anyway.

[Teamcheez1]

WIth Oren Burks hurt for an undetermined amount of time, ILB sure seems like an area of need. Martini and Thomas will fill in, but I'm not sure they're the answer.

I wonder if Navarro Bowman is an option? Jaguars just lost Marquis Lee. Trade one of our WR's for Dante Fowler.