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    Many here at Rat Central, and ALL of packer writer Twitter, is agog at the number of players that Ted drafted that Gute has let go.

    But many are missing a big piece of the picture. I haven't read everything yet, but I have not seen one mention of the change at Defensive Coordinator as being behind some of the moves.

    Remember 2009? When they asked a Pro Bowl DE to move to OLB? And the man was as unhappy as a silent person could appear to be?

    AJ Hawk was moved to the middle in what would be, unfortunately, the beginning of the end of his effective play?

    They let Colin Cole walk. They traded Tony Moll for Derek Martin. Let go of Lasagna, Antonio Smith (signed especially for Capers it was thought) was cut, let Cyril Obiozor go (they brought him back).

    Jeremy Thompson and Brady Poppinga both held down time at OLB but didn't last a month holing off Matthews and by midseason Jones on the other side.

    And some guy named Johnny Jolly beat out Justin Harrell and BJ Raji to start next to Pickett and Jenkins.

    In 2018, I think the defensive backend has been turned over specifically to match the new scheme. Rollins has a new role. They matchup one big and one smurf with WRs.

    Some of the cuts and trades might have been dead weight. But I suspect a number of them were due to the scheme change as well.
    Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.

  • #2
    This should be an extra credit thread. The questions are too hard.

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    • #3
      nm
      I can't run no more
      With that lawless crowd
      While the killers in high places
      Say their prayers out loud
      But they've summoned, they've summoned up
      A thundercloud
      They're going to hear from me - Leonard Cohen

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      • #4
        Originally posted by pbmax View Post
        Many here at Rat Central, and ALL of packer writer Twitter, is agog at the number of players that Ted drafted that Gute has let go.

        But many are missing a big piece of the picture. I haven't read everything yet, but I have not seen one mention of the change at Defensive Coordinator as being behind some of the moves.

        Remember 2009? When they asked a Pro Bowl DE to move to OLB? And the man was as unhappy as a silent person could appear to be?

        AJ Hawk was moved to the middle in what would be, unfortunately, the beginning of the end of his effective play?

        They let Colin Cole walk. They traded Tony Moll for Derek Martin. Let go of Lasagna, Antonio Smith (signed especially for Capers it was thought) was cut, let Cyril Obiozor go (they brought him back).

        Jeremy Thompson and Brady Poppinga both held down time at OLB but didn't last a month holing off Matthews and by midseason Jones on the other side.

        And some guy named Johnny Jolly beat out Justin Harrell and BJ Raji to start next to Pickett and Jenkins.

        In 2018, I think the defensive backend has been turned over specifically to match the new scheme. Rollins has a new role. They matchup one big and one smurf with WRs.

        Some of the cuts and trades might have been dead weight. But I suspect a number of them were due to the scheme change as well.

        Solid take. That plays into it for sure and I haven't heard it mentioned until you did.

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        • #5
          It is likely a factor. It's precisely the reason why the Colts were looking to trade Antonio Morrison. He was no longer a fit when they switched from 3-4 to 4-3.
          I can't run no more
          With that lawless crowd
          While the killers in high places
          Say their prayers out loud
          But they've summoned, they've summoned up
          A thundercloud
          They're going to hear from me - Leonard Cohen

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          • #6
            well we didn't exactly switch from a 3-4 to a 4-3

            and randall and rollins looked like shit in the last system too

            beigel didn't exactly look like a superstar when he got on the field last year either

            so it could be that the guys just sucked and that they were bad picks

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            • #7
              I'm just calling it as I see it; they were shitty picks by ThanksTed
              TERD Buckley over Troy Vincent, Robert Ferguson over Chris Chambers, Kevn King instead of TJ Watt, and now, RICH GANNON, over JIMMY JIMMY JIMMY LEONARD. Thank you FLOWER

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              • #8
                Originally posted by red View Post
                well we didn't exactly switch from a 3-4 to a 4-3

                and randall and rollins looked like shit in the last system too

                beigel didn't exactly look like a superstar when he got on the field last year either

                so it could be that the guys just sucked and that they were bad picks
                Could be. But Rollins is still here. Biegel looked small somehow.
                Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.

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                • #9
                  Bob & Carol & Ted & Alice
                  Who Knows? The Shadow knows!

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by pbmax View Post
                    Could be. But Rollins is still here. Biegel looked small somehow.
                    is he still here, or or was he bought out?

                    someone said something about an injury settlement. do we know if that happened or not?

                    he is being released

                    Three players put on injured reserve during cutdowns Saturday will be waived/injured by the Green Bay Packers. According to Tom Silverstein of the Milwaukee Journal Sentinel, the Packers are releasing defensive back Quinten Rollins, offensive tackle Kyle Murphy and running back…


                    i thought you posted that first?

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by red View Post
                      well we didn't exactly switch from a 3-4 to a 4-3

                      and randall and rollins looked like shit in the last system too

                      beigel didn't exactly look like a superstar when he got on the field last year either

                      so it could be that the guys just sucked and that they were bad picks

                      Solid post by PB.

                      But Red is a helluva poster, at least as far as being succinct and damn funny. And maybe right, too.
                      "The Devine era is actually worse than you remember if you go back and look at it."

                      KYPack

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Fritz View Post
                        Solid post by PB.

                        But Red is a helluva poster, at least as far as being succinct and damn funny. And maybe right, too.

                        I'll say something you'll never hear me say during a fantasy football draft.

                        I think Red is right )))
                        TERD Buckley over Troy Vincent, Robert Ferguson over Chris Chambers, Kevn King instead of TJ Watt, and now, RICH GANNON, over JIMMY JIMMY JIMMY LEONARD. Thank you FLOWER

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                        • #13
                          I'll entertain it but the lack of activity with them signing with other teams says a lot*.

                          * I have been busy and haven't actually validated any of this so there is a very good chance the above is completely false.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by red View Post
                            is he still here, or or was he bought out?

                            someone said something about an injury settlement. do we know if that happened or not?

                            he is being released

                            Three players put on injured reserve during cutdowns Saturday will be waived/injured by the Green Bay Packers. According to Tom Silverstein of the Milwaukee Journal Sentinel, the Packers are releasing defensive back Quinten Rollins, offensive tackle Kyle Murphy and running back…


                            i thought you posted that first?
                            yeah, my bad. I remembered the IR but forgot the waived injured.
                            Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by call_me_ishmael View Post
                              I'll entertain it but the lack of activity with them signing with other teams says a lot*.

                              * I have been busy and haven't actually validated any of this so there is a very good chance the above is completely false.
                              Thomas and Biegel signed elsewhere. Packers had no players claimed on waivers though. Won't know full story until it leaks out if any PS guys got minimum regular pay to sign.
                              Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.

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