Resolved: The Problem With The Packer Offense Is

[Anti-Polar Bear]

It's all Dixie's fault. Every time a NASCAR highlight pops on on the tube, Miss Patrick is always a-barking at someone. She's made the Great Arm of Butte bitchy.

A-Rod, dude shoulda stayed with Yoko. Kids today and their skinny pants, they ain't know how awesome Lennon was when he was with Yoko. Awesome anthems like Working-Class Hero, Power to the People, Woman is the N-Word of the World, and the greatest song of all time, Imagine, were all composed when Lennon and Yoko were making heterogeneous offspring.

[Pugger]

You better look again at that question: whether or not Aaron Rodgers "is the problem". Sheeeesh!

Unleash him to throw the ball down the field, rein in this stupid short passing game, and for the longer term, get some decent O Line personnel.

I agree with you that Rodgers is far from the problem with this offense right now but with his mobility limitations the short passing game seems to be more effective than having AR stand back there and wait for his receivers to get open down the field. I like our tackles and Bell had a decent game last week at RG. Getting a more effective running game today could ease some of this pressure too.

[Pugger]

It's all Dixie's fault. Every time a NASCAR highlight pops on on the tube, Miss Patrick is always a-barking at someone. She's made the Great Arm of Butte bitchy.

A-Rod, dude shoulda stayed with Yoko. Kids today and their skinny pants, they ain't know how awesome Lennon was when he was with Yoko. Awesome anthems like Working-Class Hero, Power to the People, Woman is the N-Word of the World, and the greatest song of all time, Imagine, were all composed when Lennon and Yoko were making heterogeneous offspring.

Its inane posts like this that remind us how ridiculous you can be.

[pbmax]

Wouldn't this argument also support that scheme or stubby's lack of it for the players he has is the problem?

He has a role, sure. But I am trying to square the debate over Adams use and the offense we've seen to date, both in its injured and healthy versions. Wanting to see Adams featured more after 14 targets is slightly weird. And it could be that Rodgers knew they weren't taking full advantage of the Bills D.

But I sense that he is chafing against an offense that is trying to protect him. Which to me means he wants the extended play, deep throw offense back. Doesn't want to run the quick game like the 2nd half against the Bears.

And I think that the results point to Rodgers fighting the scheme at times. Some of this is normal. No two QBs run an offense the same, so a particular QB will run an offense in a particular way.

But when Rodgers abandons the play (especially the shorter pass game) he is working against the best interests of this offense in its current form.

BTW, I thought that reply above would show Rodgers not even looking at the WR stack and just going to MVS. But dYoop is correct, Rodgers looks that way first, then decides to come back to the right. By itself, the play might not mean anything, Rodgers might just be trying to get the rook involved. But they can scheme Adams, Cobb or Allison open on that play all day. I think seeing more of it would be beneficial to the rest of the offense.

[pbmax]

I agree with you that Rodgers is far from the problem with this offense right now but with his mobility limitations the short passing game seems to be more effective than having AR stand back there and wait for his receivers to get open down the field. I like our tackles and Bell had a decent game last week at RG. Getting a more effective running game today could ease some of this pressure too.

Its only one game but Bell seems to me to be a better Guard than Tackle. He stood up pretty good.

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i agree pb that this MIGHT be the problem. thats why i asked in the more banjo thread, if he was pissed because we were running so much and running short quick routes

he seems to be the one who audibles into these long slow developing plays, and the one why looks for the deep ball rather then the wide open short to mid route

this is why we need a strong head coach. someone who can convince a-rod that the other way is better. fat mike is not that coach, he just kinda lets a-rod do his own thing. and when the QB is the best in the NFL, i guess it would be hard to control

QB's can become too big for their own britches right under our nose without us even knowing (brett favre)

can it be fixed? should it be fixed? or do we just roll with it?

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Its only one game but Bell seems to me to be a better Guard than Tackle. He stood up pretty good.

bell had a pretty good game from what i saw, and could just be the future at RG

[texaspackerbacker]

Who the hell is the imbecile who actually voted that Rodgers "is the problem"? Sheeeeeesh!

[Fritz]

I am Spartacus.

[mraynrand]

It’s really hard for me to believing eve there’s a lot of divisiveness between Stubby and Prima Rodgers. These guys scout other successful teams. No doubt Rodgers looks over at Brady and knows what has helped him survive all these years. And it hasn’t been scrambling around and taking sacks looking for the long ball every play. It’s a quick offense running game and some shots. If Rodgers is the problem then he and Stubby need to look at some more NE films straightaway.

[texaspackerbacker]

It’s really hard for me to believing eve there’s a lot of divisiveness between Stubby and Prima Rodgers. These guys scout other successful teams. No doubt Rodgers looks over at Brady and knows what has helped him survive all these years. And it hasn’t been scrambling around and taking sacks looking for the long ball every play. It’s a quick offense running game and some shots. If Rodgers is the problem then he and Stubby need to look at some more NE films straightaway.

If that were the case, Rodgers would be saying just how bad his O Line is. Or maybe it's better to shut up about it and not make them mad - just keep running for his life as he has to do on virtually every pass play. How can anybody watch a Patriots film for years and years and not see the excellent pass blocking Brady has gotten - and compare it to the shitty pass blocking Rodgers gets? This year, of course, Brady has gotten a taste of what Rodgers has had to put up with his whole career - and in those games, Brady has crashed down to earth big time.

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chicken or the egg

does a-rod holding the ball forever and scrambling around in the pocket make the line look worse then it is? or does he do all that because the line is so bad?

there are a lot of times where he takes off and starts screwing around when there is no threat to him. would he be better off if he just stood there in the pocket the line makes for him ?

the offense does function much better when a-rod stands in the pocket and gets rid of the ball very quickly. and in those cases the line is doing exactly what they are suppose to be doing

[mraynrand]

It’s tiresome to listen to the horrible o-line people. By most measures the line is prettty good. You can even look it up (that comment is for the ‘counterpuncher’ who never looks anything up and pretty much bases everything he believes off his own faith). Brady has had some marginal linemen in front of him but they adjust by getting the ball out in under 2 seconds. Same thing with Brees. Watch his drops and mechanics - he is always prepared to throw. The NO passing offense is set up to get the ball out fast. The packers do this too from time to time and all three offenses are good at it because the QBs are highly accurate and will throw even to covered receivers.

[CaptainKickass]

I am Emmitt Smith

[mraynrand]

I am Emmitt Smith

That’s interesting because this morning on the tube Emmitt Smith said he wants to be called Captain Kickass from now on.