Official Fire Mike McCarthy Thread

[mraynrand]

https://twitter.com/AaronNagler/stat...70732691017737

Ryan Grant on practice time devoted to running game in Washington under Shanahans versus GB. This would be 2012.

The year of Alex Green and Cedric Benson, and Grant on his way out. Next year, they add Lacy. Sure, as Rodgers gets more and more skilled and dominant, they put the rush on the back burner. Then they start seeing him getting killed because the defense knows they aren't running at all (Notably, the first half of Interceptouchdown game in Seattle) and they have to reset. Probably need another reset.


Also, Nagler is also comparing 2018 to 1999. Some similarities to be sure. If so, can only hope 2019 GM year is like 2000 - that was an astonishing trade and draft year that kept the Packers competitive until Thompson hired after 2004 draft debacle. (Packers similar draft/GM/fate debacle was Randall/Rollins/Spriggs and losing Shields). The collapse of the secondary and the O-line (right side) due to those unfortunate moves/circumstances has had reverberations all over the roster, notably in inability/failure to replace/replenish pass rush. These things are why I predicted 8-8 (9-7 with SF win) and Stubby gone.

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The year of Alex Green and Cedric Benson, and Grant on his way out. Next year, they add Lacy. Sure, as Rodgers gets more and more skilled and dominant, they put the rush on the back burner. Then they start seeing him getting killed because the defense knows they aren't running at all (Notably, the first half of Interceptouchdown game in Seattle) and they have to reset. Probably need another reset.


Also, Nagler is also comparing 2018 to 1999. Some similarities to be sure. If so, can only hope 2019 GM year is like 2000 - that was an astonishing trade and draft year that kept the Packers competitive until Thompson hired after 2004 draft debacle. (Packers similar draft/GM/fate debacle was Randall/Rollins/Spriggs and losing Shields). The collapse of the secondary and the O-line (right side) due to those unfortunate moves/circumstances has had reverberations all over the roster, notably in inability/failure to replace/replenish pass rush. These things are why I predicted 8-8 (9-7 with SF win) and Stubby gone.

Some people are't even joking that Gutey isn't stretching himself to save McCarthy.

Aaron Nagler @AaronNagler
His absence [Rodgers] last season put them in position to draft an immediate difference maker. Gutekunst decided to gather assets. More and more I think he was fine punting on 2018 and setting himself up long term, which I totally get. That’s a GM’s job.

[mraynrand]

Some people are't even joking that Gutey isn't stretching himself to save McCarthy.

Aaron Nagler @AaronNagler
More and more I think he was fine punting on 2018 and setting himself up long term, which I totally get. That’s a GM’s job.

Which makes it look more like 2005, except that Gutey may have had a really good draft of players who contribute immediately - when not hurt.

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The Steakhouse wasn't enough. Catering without Kuhn.

https://twitter.com/AaronNagler/status/1052230749007597569

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I need a translation here. Who is Flea (I think that is what he said)? Also maybe Brian?

https://twitter.com/AaronNagler/status/1052221310212943872

[mraynrand]

I need a translation here. Who is Flea (I think that is what he said)? Also maybe Brian?

https://twitter.com/AaronNagler/stat...21310212943872

There's only one Bryan (Bulaga) on the roster in the three years Grant was on the Packers and Peppers in Chicago (2010-2012)

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There's only one Bryan (Bulaga) on the roster in the three years Grant was on the Packers and Peppers in Chicago (2010-2012)

Yeah, but he also references Urlacher later. If this person and flea are the same, he also mentions someone on the sideline I think?

Still unsure about flea. Unless Bryan Bulaga's nickname is (flea) Bag.

[Joemailman]

I need a translation here. Who is Flea (I think that is what he said)? Also maybe Brian?

https://twitter.com/AaronNagler/stat...21310212943872

Packers Head Athletic Trainer is Bryan 'Flea' Engel. https://twitter.com/bryanengelatc?lang=en

[mraynrand]

Packers Head Athletic Trainer is Bryan 'Flea' Engel. https://twitter.com/bryanengelatc?lang=en

nice get

[Joemailman]

nice get

Elementary.

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Tom Pelissero @TomPelissero
The #Cardinals have fired OC Mike McCoy, source said.

His track record since his first stop in Denver is decidedly terrible.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mike_McCoy_(American_football_coach)

But he made Kyle Orton and Tebow functional NFL QBs (he coached with Josh McDaniels and John Fox). There is enough dreck with his Chargers HC tenure to doubt him. His subsequent tenures with the Broncos and Cardinals don't inspire confidence.

I cannot tell you I would endorse hiring the guy. 8-10 years ago he was seemed like a genius.

[mraynrand]

The Cardinals LT makes Marshmallow Outhouse look like Jonathan Ogden. Not sure how an OC can solve that. Oh wait, maybe you run away from the terrible side of your formation (see pitch-runs in SF at GB game).... But, Rosen ain't no Aaron Rodgers - not now, and not likely ever (the affluent never make great QBs, or so I've been told). Regardless of how much suckitude is onboard the unreal McCoy, I suspect some scapegoatin' is going on.

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The Cardinals LT makes Marshmallow Outhouse look like Jonathan Ogden. Not sure how an OC can solve that. Oh wait, maybe you run away from the terrible side of your formation (see pitch-runs in SF at GB game).... But, Rosen ain't no Aaron Rodgers - not now, and not likely ever (the affluent never make great QBs, or so I've been told). Regardless of how much suckitude is onboard the unreal McCoy, I suspect some scapegoatin' is going on.

Yeah, this doesn't speak well of Wilks future chances as a HC.

Then again, there was a time everyone was down about Alvarez and his offensive coordinator I believe. Barry canned him before the turnaround and there was no rejoicing (I think he promoted/hired Childress). For some reason, people loved that guy (I cannot remember his name). These people predicted Alvarez would not survive such behavior as to betray a trust like that so quickly.

So perhaps Wilks was truly in need of a mulligan. Louis Riddick thinks it all a problem of talent though.

[mraynrand]

Sometimes scapegoating works. Ask the guys on Jonah's boat.

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Sometimes scapegoating works. Ask the guys on Jonah's boat.

You would have thought Alvarez accused him of drug smuggling given the reaction, rather than just getting fired. The guy almost had to be a local, or with a big local connection. Because the big, insidery prediction was that high school coaches would avoid helping Barry.