Official Fire Mike McCarthy Thread

[Joemailman]

Packers record after 8 games last 3 years:

2018: 3-4-1
2017: 4-4
2016: 4-4

Barring a miracle, this will be the 2nd consecutive year Packers don't win 10. And in 2016 they needed to win their last 6 to get to 10-6.

I go back to the first game of the year. Packers looked unready to play in 1st quarter against the Bears. McCarthy said next day the team came out flat against the Bears and they have addressed that. It left me wondering how the hell you come out flat on opening night against the Bears at Lambeau on national television. Something is amiss. Whether it's the coaching or lack of leadership by the veteran players, or both, something needs to change.

[Fosco33]

I don’t understand the hesitation or stubborn belief that things will change. Its been the same shit for 5 years...

Look at the St. Louis cardinals record after firing Matheny... went .500 before and 42-27 (.608) after firing.

Grow a pair Gute

[Fritz]

I don't think Gute has the authority to fire MM. Remember? Each of them reports to Murphy.

So that's my impression - it's Murphy that needs to grow a pair - of tits or balls, whatever it takes.

[call_me_ishmael]

Baseball and Football aren't the same, though. MM doesn't deserve a mid-season firing, that's ridiculous. He's not a bad coach or a bad guy. I think he'll be successful wherever he goes next (Cleveland).

The team just doesn't have the horses. It's just time for a fresh start. I highly doubt they'll find another coach that is as successful as MM over his first 5 years or so, in fact it's extraordinarily unlikely, but it's just time do try something else.

[Fosco33]

It’s more about locker room and fan base. The cards didn’t change pieces either...

And if it’s Murphy - then yeah, grow some ginger hair on those balls.

Unfortunately 90% likely end of year. Another lost year. We had two of top 10 qb’s since ‘92 and have as many rings combined as Eli fucking Manning.

[red]

The problem the last few years is the offense, it’s one big mess

Can’t score in the red zone, and there never hardly any continuity, it’s just sit back and wait for a-rod to make a big play

And one of the big problems is the plays and routes we run, relying on all our guys everytime to beat their men

[denverYooper]

If they lose to the Dolphins at home next Sunday, they should show M3 the door.

[mraynrand]

It’s more about locker room and fan base. The cards didn’t change pieces either...

And if it’s Murphy - then yeah, grow some ginger hair on those balls.

Unfortunately 90% likely end of year. Another lost year. We had two of top 10 qb’s since ‘92 and have as many rings combined as Eli fucking Manning.

Two more than Dan Marino and Dan Fouts combined.

[call_me_ishmael]

https://twitter.com/zachkruse2/status/1059505081127759872

[mraynrand]

The fact that they didn't rework Stubby's contract suggest this is 2005 redux. However, it's clear they are transitioning and rebuilding from some thin final TT years, so that may be all that's going on and they still like 'ol Stubbers. At the beginning of the season I was leaning towards them wanting to start over, but if they do that, they better get who they want. On the other hand, they did mostly rebuild the coaching staff and there are a lot of guys who are younger and/or promoted (with the exception of Philbin - that move I don't really get), so maybe they stay put, but turn over the OC this offseason. It mostly depends on Rodgers and whether there is a bad working relationship with Stubby, because they are invested in Rodgers over Stubby. I still like option 3: Player-coach Rodgers for 2019, with him doing what Curly did in 1929 (except Rodgers would get more PT - lol).

[call_me_ishmael]

Folks, MM is done barring a super bowl. He could get John Fox'd even if they make NFCC. He's gone. It's just time.

[mraynrand]

https://twitter.com/zachkruse2/statu...05081127759872

Good twitter account:

"Zach Kruse
Rookie LB Oren Burks had a nightmare first series. Packers desperately needed to sub him out but Patriots' pace made it impossible."

Call a time out. Maybe you stop their momentum and adjust right then and there. But no, the TO is too fucking valuable, right?

[Gotarace]

Good twitter account:

"Zach Kruse
Rookie LB Oren Burks had a nightmare first series. Packers desperately needed to sub him out but Patriots' pace made it impossible."

Call a time out. Maybe you stop their momentum and adjust right then and there. But no, the TO is too fucking valuable, right?

We have to save those TO's for the 14 times a game Stubby drags his ass and get's the play in way to late...then send 12 guys out on the field right after a TO.

[call_me_ishmael]

People smarter than I, is this in fact the case?

http://www.espn.com/blog/green-bay-packers/post/_/id/37824/nick-perrys-contract-with-packers-not-as-monstrous-as-it-seems

I am no good at reading those "contract details" websites. Sportrac says the out is after next year, but Rob's article says it after this year.

[Joemailman]

People smarter than I, is this in fact the case?

http://www.espn.com/blog/green-bay-packers/post/_/id/37824/nick-perrys-contract-with-packers-not-as-monstrous-as-it-seems

I am no good at reading those "contract details" websites. Sportrac says the out is after next year, but Rob's article says it after this year.

The out is after this season if they do it right away. Perry is due a 5.4 million roster bonus due 3rd day of the league year (mid-March). That's how I read it based on Spotrac.

Graham has basically the same situation.