Official Fire Mike McCarthy Thread

[pbmax]

If they lose to the Dolphins at home next Sunday, they should show M3 the door.

If the Packers lose to a Brock Osweiler led team, Fritz and I are going to have to pull the coach kidnapping scheme out of mothballs.

How long is chloroform shelf stable? Its been sitting since a man named Strock was in charge of ST.



**Past performance in this case is a definite guarantee that this is a joke.

[pbmax]

I don't think Gute has the authority to fire MM. Remember? Each of them reports to Murphy.

So that's my impression - it's Murphy that needs to grow a pair - of tits or balls, whatever it takes.

From elsewhere I agree with Joe that Murphy seemed to want to keep his options open on this.

But I am worried about the structure going forward, whenever they decide to move on.

[call_me_ishmael]

The out is after this season if they do it right away. Perry is due a 5.4 million roster bonus due 3rd day of the league year (mid-March). That's how I read it based on Spotrac.

Graham has basically the same situation.

Can you explain how this works? I am so confused trying to understand sportrac here and what the ultimate value of the numbers mean.

https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/green-bay-packers/nick-perry-9838/

It seems like the guaranteed money that would get paid out and impact the salary cap are the the signing bonuses for the next three years, so 3,700,000 * 3. That's 11,100,000 in guaranteed money owed to Perry. If they cut him before the league year, they would owe him that 11,100,00 money on the cap, but they would save the 5,200,000 in base salary, 5,400,000 in roster bonuses, and 400,000 in workout bonuses, right? The sum of the base salary, roster bonus and workout bonus is 11,000,000. I think that means they save 11,000,000 of non-guaranteed money on the cap by cutting him. So, basically, the equation is to take the guaranteed money remaining (11,100,000) and subtract the non-guaranteed money they were planning no pay him (11,000,000) to calculate the amount the owe him in dead space. So, it'd cost them 100K to cut him, right?

[pbmax]

https://twitter.com/zachkruse2/statu...05081127759872

The only guy open on that play was Scantron and he was short of the sticks.

[Joemailman]

The only guy open on that play was Scantron and he was short of the sticks.

I'd take my chances with MVS getting YAC over Cobb catching a deep sideline pass.

[Joemailman]

Can you explain how this works? I am so confused trying to understand sportrac here and what the ultimate value of the numbers mean.

https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/green-bay-packers/nick-perry-9838/

It seems like the guaranteed money that would get paid out and impact the salary cap are the the signing bonuses for the next three years, so 3,700,000 * 3. That's 11,100,000 in guaranteed money owed to Perry. If they cut him before the league year, they would owe him that 11,100,00 money on the cap, but they would save the 5,200,000 in base salary, 5,400,000 in roster bonuses, and 400,000 in workout bonuses, right? The sum of the base salary, roster bonus and workout bonus is 11,000,000. I think that means they save 11,000,000 of non-guaranteed money on the cap by cutting him. So, basically, the equation is to take the guaranteed money remaining (11,100,000) and subtract the non-guaranteed money they were planning no pay him (11,000,000) to calculate the amount the owe him in dead space. So, it'd cost them 100K to cut him, right?

That's how I see it. As long as they cut Perry before the roster bonus is paid, the only guaranteed money is the signing bonus.

[pbmax]

I'd take my chances with MVS getting YAC over Cobb catching a deep sideline pass.

I would too but that is the problem with this offense going on quite a while.

In Rodgers defense, the shorter passes have gotten a LOT more frequent and his YPA is nosediving the last few years. So from his perspective, it looks like a Sam Bradford game plan at times. But there is a time and a place.

[mraynrand]

The only guy open on that play was Scantron and he was short of the sticks.

You throw high to Graham over the middle. He's single-covered and is like Manute Bol with muscles. Let him reach up to 7 feet and grab the rock.

[pbmax]

You throw high to Graham over the middle. He's single-covered and is like Manute Bol with muscles. Let him reach up to 7 feet and grab the rock.

I believe its workable. But either Rodgers or McCarthy don't believe its wise or possible.

Graham cannot elevate, but he can still body a guy out of the way. Probably needs a lot of reps to help QB know where to put it. Almost had it in end zone.

[call_me_ishmael]

That's how I see it. As long as they cut Perry before the roster bonus is paid, the only guaranteed money is the signing bonus.

The problem is they need to replace him, so if they pay him the 11,100,000 and then another player 6M, that's a total of 17,100,000 allotted to the spot. That's quite a bit

[mraynrand]

I believe its workable. But either Rodgers or McCarthy don't believe its wise or possible.

Graham cannot elevate, but he can still body a guy out of the way. Probably needs a lot of reps to help QB know where to put it. Almost had it in end zone.

It's gotta be workable for anything 10 yards and under. Especially with Wang Chung in coverage.

[George Cumby]

It's gotta be workable for anything 10 yards and under. Especially with Wang Chung in coverage.

It might be the wrong point on the curve though.

[Rutnstrut]

It's gotta be workable for anything 10 yards and under. Especially with Wang Chung in coverage.

You can't expect stubby to figure something like that out.

[oldbutnotdeadyet]

So I'm old enough (62) to have lived thru the lean years. And also old enough to know changing head coaches is not always a good thing. Finally, old enough to know I can't afford to live thru another decade of miserable football, especially when we have a hof quarterback. My 2 cent opinion, is it is time to blow this f***ker up! Dump MM, take a chance on a creative mind head coach, lose the overpaid players, and let's get back to the exciting years, the ones where we knew we were not the best, but there was excitement and hope for the future. Even if this means trading Rodgers for LOTS of high picks. I realize this is not a popular option, but in todays competitive football, ya do what ya gotta do....

[Pugger]

So I'm old enough (62) to have lived thru the lean years. And also old enough to know changing head coaches is not always a good thing. Finally, old enough to know I can't afford to live thru another decade of miserable football, especially when we have a hof quarterback. My 2 cent opinion, is it is time to blow this f***ker up! Dump MM, take a chance on a creative mind head coach, lose the overpaid players, and let's get back to the exciting years, the ones where we knew we were not the best, but there was excitement and hope for the future. Even if this means trading Rodgers for LOTS of high picks. I realize this is not a popular option, but in todays competitive football, ya do what ya gotta do....

I was with ya until you said trade Rodgers. Even if we get a boat load of draft picks that is no guarantee we'll find a suitable replacement in the college ranks. We can still build a winner around #12 before he retires. New Orleans had a couple of lean years recently but kept Brees. They rebuilt the team around him and now he and the Saints are winning again.