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  • #46
    Originally posted by red View Post
    People greatly overvalue draft picks

    Cooper is a solid #1 wr when his heads in the right place

    Dallas is in desperate need of a #1

    If they drafted a wr with that first round pick next year, then maybe in 2 to 3 years he could turn out to be as good as copper. Or they can have that talent now

    I think it’s a good trade for Dallas, hell the eagles offered a 2nd, so other teams were very interested
    I read the Cowboys were bidding against themselves. Where did you hear Eagles with a 2nd?

    Gruden was derided for trading away Khalil Mack, but he somehow managed to prise a first-round pick from the Dallas Cowboys for Amari Cooper. As Gruden knows all too well, it takes only one desperate partner to make a bad deal in the NFL.
    Last edited by pbmax; 10-23-2018, 09:15 PM.
    Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.

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    • #47
      Originally posted by mraynrand View Post
      just wait 'til he starts dropping everything. If he does, because that's his MO....
      He's also lost what explosiveness he had. Saw him compared to Roy Williams.

      The Raiders sent Amari Cooper—who has averaged less than 50 yards a game since the start of the 2017 season—to Dallas for the Cowboys’ first-round pick, which, assuming they do not improve drastically, will be a fairly good one since the Cowboys are one of 14 teams currently under .500. Cooper’s yards per route run has declined three straight seasons and he hasn’t cracked the top 30 in his career in that metric. This season he’s 62nd among receivers.
      Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.

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      • #48
        Originally posted by texaspackerbacker View Post
        Assuming Cooper is not damaged goods, and I'm pretty sure he is not, this trade is good for Dallas. I would not have wanted to see the Packers make a similar trade, because our needs are not similar. But for Dallas, this could lift them to near the top of the NFL.
        This deal may help them win the NFC East, but putting them near the top of the NFL? That's laughable.
        All hail the Ruler of the Meadow!

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        • #49
          Cooper at age 24 and without serious injury in his career has "lost explosiveness"? Come On!

          "win the NFC East but not be near the top of the NFL"? Last year's champ of the East won the Super Bowl - with a back up QB no less.

          My problem with this trade from a Cowboy perspective is that Cooper is only under contract through this season (I think that is true). He is in effect a hired gun, so if the Cowboys don't perk up and go deep into the playoffs, the trade is kinda a waste. If Jerry and Stephen Jones think this deal is a positive thing, though, I wouldn't argue with them. Their GMship is a helluva lot better over recent years than a lot of other GMs including our own.
          What could be more GOOD and NORMAL and AMERICAN than Packer Football?

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          • #50
            Originally posted by pbmax View Post
            I read the Cowboys were bidding against themselves. Where did you hear Eagles with a 2nd?

            https://www.theringer.com/nfl/2018/1...nfl-trade-king


            The Eagles' reported offer for Amari Cooper wasn't enough to land the wideout but it certainly shows that they mean business at the trade deadline. By Dave Zangaro


            Michael Silver

            @MikeSilver
            I’m told the Eagles offered a second-round pick to the Raiders for Amari Cooper last week. Raiders held out for a 1. Got it today from Philly’s NFC East rival. Colts also had interest. @AroundTheNFL @nflnetwork

            3:18 PM - Oct 22, 2018

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            • #51
              Originally posted by gbgary View Post
              it would take guts to do that.
              It would take another GM who wants to unload a pass rusher to do that and I can't see that happening any time soon.

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              • #52
                My grandson told me that talk radio in Dallas says the Giants are ready to be like Oakland and unload anybody not named Beckham or Barkley. Some all out fools in the Dallas area apparently would like to see the Cowboys replace Dak Prescott with that old puke, Eli Manning; Sheeeesh, they are as bad as some people in this forum hahahaha.

                If the Giants are having a fire sale, though, I think they still have a couple of decent pass rushers that the Packers might be interested in.
                What could be more GOOD and NORMAL and AMERICAN than Packer Football?

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                • #53
                  He's too young be dismissed as done, but there were already questions about him at his best (first two seasons) and now he is performing worse.

                  Gruden definitely seems to be tanking, but Cooper was bad last year as well. I guess we will see.

                  Although, maybe not, he is going to Dallas.
                  Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.

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                  • #54
                    Here be some real receivers:

                    "Never, never ever support a punk like mraynrand. Rather be as I am and feel real sympathy for his sickness." - Woodbuck

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                    • #55
                      3700 yards, 26 TDs in 1980
                      "Never, never ever support a punk like mraynrand. Rather be as I am and feel real sympathy for his sickness." - Woodbuck

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                      • #56
                        Originally posted by texaspackerbacker View Post
                        My grandson told me that talk radio in Dallas says the Giants are ready to be like Oakland and unload anybody not named Beckham or Barkley. Some all out fools in the Dallas area apparently would like to see the Cowboys replace Dak Prescott with that old puke, Eli Manning; Sheeeesh, they are as bad as some people in this forum hahahaha.

                        If the Giants are having a fire sale, though, I think they still have a couple of decent pass rushers that the Packers might be interested in.
                        What's the max to give for Olivier Vernon? Might go as high as Packers #2 if he's available. Think Packers have the cap space, question of how effective he will be.

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