The Official Pack-St. Louis Rams of LA Discussion Thread

[Rutnstrut]

Packers lose and look bad doing it. Stubby will be outcoached yet again.

[Anti-Polar Bear]

Of course the Eagles have already lost more games in 2018 then 2017.

Free agency is fine but you aren't going to be able to build your team long-term that way. You can't afford having 3 contracts like ARods or Macks or Brady on a team. There will not be enough room to sign anyone else or sign your own that is good to a decent 2nd contract.

You need to hit your draft and fill in a few spots with FA. You aren't going to find a Mack in FA except in extremely rare instances (like a new coach who thinks he is smarter than everyone else in the world trading away his stud outside pass rusher).

It’s a “not for long” league. Win now or get fired. There’s no such thing as a long term plan in the Not For Long league.

Gotta utilize ALL aspects of the game - draft, free agency and trade - competently and frequently. Belichick is living proof that Belichickism works.

[Anti-Polar Bear]

Good points. You're never gonna rake in enough cash off that sledding hill to pay several huge contracts. Kids have money these days, but not that much.

Wrong. Money is not an issue. The capitalist pig owners have plenty of frogskins, especially with titanic TV contracts and sumptuous licensing revenues. The question is, are the pig owners willing to share more “wealth” with the players?

With Marxist revenue sharing and 300 million frogskins sitting in a bank earning interest faster than the speed of light, it was feasible for the Packers to sign both A-Rod and Mack to titanic contacts. German Shepherd obviously fucked up the Mack ordeal. (Don’t give me the shit about needing to save “rainy day” cash for stadium upgrades. Next time the Pack “want” a new stadium, they’re gonna do what all the other teams with their greed-fucked pigs do: ask the public to pay for it, again.)

The salary cap is irrelevant. Cap can always be cooked. Besides, the pig owners are all for a cap - it provides them with an excuse to trim labor expenses.

[Tony Oday]

Wrong. Money is not an issue. The capitalist pig owners have plenty of frogskins, especially with titanic TV contracts and sumptuous licensing revenues. The question is, are the pig owners willing to share more “wealth” with the players?

With Marxist revenue sharing and 300 million frogskins sitting in a bank earning interest faster than the speed of light, it was feasible for the Packers to sign both A-Rod and Mack to titanic contacts. German Shepherd obviously fucked up the Mack ordeal. (Don’t give me the shit about needing to save “rainy day” cash for stadium upgrades. Next time the Pack “want” a new stadium, they’re gonna do what all the other teams with their greed-fucked pigs do: ask the public to pay for it, again.)

The salary cap is irrelevant. Cap can always be cooked. Besides, the pig owners are all for a cap - it provides them with an excuse to trim labor expenses.

You are literally too dumb to insult.

[mraynrand]

Wrong. Money is not an issue. The capitalist pig owners have plenty of frogskins, especially with titanic TV contracts and sumptuous licensing revenues. The question is, are the pig owners willing to share more “wealth” with the players?

With Marxist revenue sharing and 300 million frogskins sitting in a bank earning interest faster than the speed of light, it was feasible for the Packers to sign both A-Rod and Mack to titanic contacts. German Shepherd obviously fucked up the Mack ordeal. (Don’t give me the shit about needing to save “rainy day” cash for stadium upgrades. Next time the Pack “want” a new stadium, they’re gonna do what all the other teams with their greed-fucked pigs do: ask the public to pay for it, again.)

The salary cap is irrelevant. Cap can always be cooked. Besides, the pig owners are all for a cap - it provides them with an excuse to trim labor expenses.

IOW, you're in favor of de-regulation.

[3irty1]

Wrong. Money is not an issue. The capitalist pig owners have plenty of frogskins, especially with titanic TV contracts and sumptuous licensing revenues. The question is, are the pig owners willing to share more “wealth” with the players?

With Marxist revenue sharing and 300 million frogskins sitting in a bank earning interest faster than the speed of light, it was feasible for the Packers to sign both A-Rod and Mack to titanic contacts. German Shepherd obviously fucked up the Mack ordeal. (Don’t give me the shit about needing to save “rainy day” cash for stadium upgrades. Next time the Pack “want” a new stadium, they’re gonna do what all the other teams with their greed-fucked pigs do: ask the public to pay for it, again.)

The salary cap is irrelevant. Cap can always be cooked. Besides, the pig owners are all for a cap - it provides them with an excuse to trim labor expenses.

White hot take.

[ThunderDan]

Good points. You're never gonna rake in enough cash off that sledding hill to pay several huge contracts. Kids have money these days, but not that much.

I'm not even talking about cash flow. I am talking about the cap.
The Packers cap in 2018 is $177,000,000 plus $3.9M rolled from 2017. Total cap space a little over $181M.

ARod counts $20M, Mack costs $13.8M, Julio Jones costs $13M. For 3 super stars you are taking up 25.9% of your cap. Between IR, dead money from contacts (Nelson and Bennett) and practice squad that is another $19.4M.
In this hypothetical you would have $115M left to sign 50 players.

Look at what the Packers have left getting rid of Cobb and Clay's contracts for Mack and Jones:
Bacteria - $11M, Perry - $10.7M, Adams - $10.5M, Daniels - $9.8M, Bulaga - $7.9M, Clinton-Dix - $6M, Graham - $5.9M, Crosby $5.2M

Those 8 players eat up another $67M. That leaves $48M to sign 42 players and we aren't even paying a CB on our roster over $4M.

That means you have on average $1.1M to spend on every other player for your bottom 42.

You can only sign so many mid-level free agents and not have street FAs all over your roster. It just isn't possible.

[beveaux1]

I'm not even talking about cash flow. I am talking about the cap.
The Packers cap in 2018 is $177,000,000 plus $3.9M rolled from 2017. Total cap space a little over $181M.

ARod counts $20M, Mack costs $13.8M, Julio Jones costs $13M. For 3 super stars you are taking up 25.9% of your cap. Between IR, dead money from contacts (Nelson and Bennett) and practice squad that is another $19.4M.
In this hypothetical you would have $115M left to sign 50 players.

Look at what the Packers have left getting rid of Cobb and Clay's contracts for Mack and Jones:
Bacteria - $11M, Perry - $10.7M, Adams - $10.5M, Daniels - $9.8M, Bulaga - $7.9M, Clinton-Dix - $6M, Graham - $5.9M, Crosby $5.2M

Those 8 players eat up another $67M. That leaves $48M to sign 42 players and we aren't even paying a CB on our roster over $4M.

That means you have on average $1.1M to spend on every other player for your bottom 42.

You can only sign so many mid-level free agents and not have street FAs all over your roster. It just isn't possible.

There's a reason teams fill up rosters with young players on their first contract or those who were undrafted free agents. They just can't afford 5 to 8 year veterans who are not difference-makers.

Filler players on the roster are raw kids and that is the main reason depth is crappy. Lose a top starter and the season could be over.

[Fosco33]

A game we should lose quite easily.

So maybe we’ll actually win one. If we do - I’ll book a flight to NE and watch Brady/Rodgers

[mraynrand]

I'm not even talking about cash flow. I am talking about the cap....etc

ya I'm in agreement. (The sledding hill was just a wise-crack)

[Anti-Polar Bear]

I'm not even talking about cash flow. I am talking about the cap.
The Packers cap in 2018 is $177,000,000 plus $3.9M rolled from 2017. Total cap space a little over $181M.

ARod counts $20M, Mack costs $13.8M, Julio Jones costs $13M. For 3 super stars you are taking up 25.9% of your cap. Between IR, dead money from contacts (Nelson and Bennett) and practice squad that is another $19.4M.
In this hypothetical you would have $115M left to sign 50 players.

Look at what the Packers have left getting rid of Cobb and Clay's contracts for Mack and Jones:
Bacteria - $11M, Perry - $10.7M, Adams - $10.5M, Daniels - $9.8M, Bulaga - $7.9M, Clinton-Dix - $6M, Graham - $5.9M, Crosby $5.2M

Those 8 players eat up another $67M. That leaves $48M to sign 42 players and we aren't even paying a CB on our roster over $4M.

That means you have on average $1.1M to spend on every other player for your bottom 42.

You can only sign so many mid-level free agents and not have street FAs all over your roster. It just isn't possible.

Cook. The. Cap.

Rodgers’ contract could’ve been structured to count only, say, $10 M against the cap this year. Mack, $5 M.

Yes, you’re “backloading” the contracts, and who knows, in a couple of the years, hopefully, the capitalist economy could completely tank into the abyss of oblivion due to a full-scale world-wide rebellion. But alas, the math says that in the next decade or so, the fat pigs will only get fatter.

Cap hell? The shit doesn’t exists anymore. In the near future, the math says, teams will still be bailed out by the networks...in addition to the internet.

As a wise man once said, the cap serves no purpose nowadays, but as an excuse for the pigs to cut labor expenses. Think Jerry Jones gives a fuck that Dez is counting $10 M or whatever in dead money against the Cowboys’ cap? Nada. Jones is totally aroused in that he’s not paying Dez $15 M this season.

[ThunderDan]

Cook. The. Cap.

Rodgers’ contract could’ve been structured to count only, say, $10 M against the cap this year. Mack, $5 M.

Yes, you’re “backloading” the contracts, and who knows, in a couple of the years, hopefully, the capitalist economy could completely tank into the abyss of oblivion due to a full-scale world-wide rebellion. But alas, the math says that in the next decade or so, the fat pigs will only get fatter.

Cap hell? The shit doesn’t exists anymore. In the near future, the math says, teams will still be bailed out by the networks...in addition to the internet.

As a wise man once said, the cap serves no purpose nowadays, but as an excuse for the pigs to cut labor expenses. Think Jerry Jones gives a fuck that Dez is counting $10 M or whatever in dead money against the Cowboys’ cap? Nada. Jones is totally aroused in that he’s not paying Dez $15 M this season.

Tired, overused and bland. Your schtick is boring and lame.

[Anti-Polar Bear]

Tired, overused and bland. Your schtick is boring and lame.

Yet, you can't debunk it. Just admit it: Polar Bearism (draft and develop) is the reason Rodgers (and Favre) is only wearing a fluky ring.

[mraynrand]

Yet, you can't debunk it. Just admit it: Polar Bearism (draft and develop) is the reason Rodgers (and Favre) is only wearing a fluky ring.

Hard to support that, because Cheat is the only guy really to properly employ Belichickism. No other team since the Cowboys has been able to get three championships; of the five (I think it's five - Denver, Tampa, Pitt, Balt, Giants) teams that have 2, 3, had pretty different team compositions each time. It's just really hard to repeat, even with, and maybe in part because of exceptional QBs, in this era of extreme NFL socialism.

[3irty1]

It definitely doesn't hurt to be in the AFC.