Hypothetical Next Coach of the Green Bay Packers

[call_me_ishmael]

Eric "Sleeping with the" Bieniemy. OC for the Chefs and is considered the next hot HC hire. Rumor is that Reid has trusted him with most of the facets of the offense including QB develpment. He's extremely meticulous in his prep and he really gets a lot of the spacing and isolation concepts Reid does.

I love the idea of going with a Chiefs coach. In my research, I definitely overlooked this guy and I should not have. I'm not really sure why, I guess because it's his first year on the job. The Chiefs run the most innovative offense (read: college offense) in the league. This is what I'd like to get to. The Packers would need to invest _heavily_ in speed in the draft though. I'm good with that personally.

Unrelated, but is it safe to say Andy Reid has the best coaching tree in the league? Seems like an Andy Reid coordinator spot is a guaranteed ticket to a head coaching gig.

[Pugger]

Miami D coordinator Matt Burke is considered an emerging talent and runs a traditional 4-3 scheme. He comes from the Jim Schwartz/Gunther Cunningham tree and also spent time under Paul Guenther in Cincinnati.

If we go with a defensive minded HC will that be the end of Pettine in GB? I like what our new DC is doing.

[Smidgeon]

I love the idea of going with a Chiefs coach. In my research, I definitely overlooked this guy and I should not have. I'm not really sure why, I guess because it's his first year on the job. The Chiefs run the most innovative offense (read: college offense) in the league. This is what I'd like to get to. The Packers would need to invest _heavily_ in speed in the draft though. I'm good with that personally.

Unrelated, but is it safe to say Andy Reid has the best coaching tree in the league? Seems like an Andy Reid coordinator spot is a guaranteed ticket to a head coaching gig.

Except for TE, don't they have that? Adams may not be a burner, but he's elite in other things that make receiver successful.

Cobb will be gone sooner rather than later, and the three rookies are all burners.

Jones might not have the best 40 time (in fact, he could as well--I have no clue what it is), but one article I read recently said his acceleration is light years ahead of everyone else, hitting the line of scrimmage at a speed significantly higher than any of the other RBs.

[Fritz]

The motto of our county hospital is "Change is Healthy." At an open forum, I told the CEO that I changed from a balanced, low carb diet with exercise to a Beer and Pizza, TV-watching lifestyle and asked him if that was 'healthy.' I was escorted out by security.

Change is healthy but dollar bills are healthier.

[Joemailman]

Remember when Sherman confronted Sapp post-game about Sapp's monstrous hit on Clifton? A team is a reflection of its coach. The Packers under Sherman, especially under Sherman the GM/Coach, were tough as fuck and they refused to be anyone's bitch.

Bullshit. If the Packers were so tough, how come it was Sherman who had to confront Sapp? None of his players would. Sherman might have been tough. His teams weren't.

[call_me_ishmael]

Was Mike Shanahan an offensive visionary? It seems he put together quite the staff in Washington. This was a fun read.

https://www.si.com/nfl/2018/06/18/sean-mcvay-rams-kyle-shanahan-49ers-coaching-rivalry

New Titans offensive coordinator Matt LaFleur, now 38, was Washington’s QB coach from 2010 to ’13, later worked as Shanahan’s QB coach for two years in Atlanta and was McVay’s offensive coordinator last year in Los Angeles.

[KYPack]

I didn't go through his whole thread, but anyone mentioned so far that has coaching for the San Francisco 49ers in their background? IF no I don't know if hey can be hired in Green Bay.


Anyone coaching for Andy Reid will be an option, otherwise I struggle for find a name that make sense. I guess the OC from the Saints. I don't even know that guys name.

Firing McCarthy will be for change not because there is a better coach out there.

I know you are a busy boy, but read that one, it's pretty good.

Here are some names of bright, young OC's that were in the article:

Matt LaFleur Ten Titan OC
John DeFilipo Vikes OC (a name that comes up, plus we could tease Ras about it)
Nathaniel Hackett Jag's OC
Nick Sirianni Colt OC
Jim Bob Cooter Lion OC (I hope not, can't stand people named Jim Bob)
Dowell Loggains Dolphin OC (We'll see how smart he is tomorrow)

The article doesn't name them all, but there are some 15 young QB coaches around the league in that "smart kid under 40" category. I imagine that would eliminate Joe Philbin.

[bobblehead]

I didn't go through his whole thread, but anyone mentioned so far that has coaching for the San Francisco 49ers in their background? IF no I don't know if hey can be hired in Green Bay.


Anyone coaching for Andy Reid will be an option, otherwise I struggle for find a name that make sense. I guess the OC from the Saints. I don't even know that guys name.

Firing McCarthy will be for change not because there is a better coach out there.

Eric Bienemy has worked pretty hard to learn the "reid way" in KC. He might make a good head coach but I believe this is his first season as a coordinator which would make it early...but not unheard of.

[bobblehead]

Eric "Sleeping with the" Bieniemy. OC for the Chefs and is considered the next hot HC hire. Rumor is that Reid has trusted him with most of the facets of the offense including QB develpment. He's extremely meticulous in his prep and he really gets a lot of the spacing and isolation concepts Reid does.

I Really gotta learn to read on before commenting...

[bobblehead]

I know you are a busy boy, but read that one, it's pretty good.

Here are some names of bright, young OC's that were in the article:

Matt LaFleur Ten Titan OC
John DeFilipo Vikes OC (a name that comes up, plus we could tease Ras about it)
Nathaniel Hackett Jag's OC
Nick Sirianni Colt OC
Jim Bob Cooter Lion OC (I hope not, can't stand people named Jim Bob)
Dowell Loggains Dolphin OC (We'll see how smart he is tomorrow)

The article doesn't name them all, but there are some 15 young QB coaches around the league in that "smart kid under 40" category. I imagine that would eliminate Joe Philbin.

Hackett Has made Blake Bortles look serviceable most of the time. He also used Mercedes Lewis to develop a smash mouth run game to assist his QB.

[call_me_ishmael]

Matt Canada shout out!

Really, it was a simple play, made confusing for the defense by a ridiculous presnap motion. And it had been lifted from the college ranks. (Specifically: the presnap chaos practiced in 2017 by LSU offensive coordinator Matt Canada.) Both the play’s name and the formation, Weezy Right, were a nod to Louisiana-born rapper Lil Wayne. The first time the Chiefs installed Lollipop, quality control coaches queued up that chart-topping 2008 Weezy track in the meeting room. The music might not have been Reid’s style, but, as is his way, he embraced it.

The 2016 Chiefs traveled in November to play the Panthers in Charlotte, and after checking into their hotel on Saturday afternoon, several coaches caught a glimpse of a game between unranked Pitt and No. 3 Clemson. As they watched, it was more than just the unfolding upset that caught their eyes—they were sucked in by the misdirection tactics discombobulating Clemson’s defense. That was the first time they noticed Canada, who back then was Pitt’s OC.

https://www.si.com/nfl/2018/11/12/future-football-offense-andy-reid-patrick-mahomes-kansas-city-chiefs

[texaspackerbacker]

I'd prefer somebody with NFL head coaching experience even if it wasn't all that successful. Also, I do not want somebody who has "made QBs good". I want somebody with a small enough ego to leave well enough alone and subordinate his own brilliance to what Aaron Rodgers does best.

[Pugger]

I'd prefer somebody with NFL head coaching experience even if it wasn't all that successful. Also, I do not want somebody who has "made QBs good". I want somebody with a small enough ego to leave well enough alone and subordinate his own brilliance to what Aaron Rodgers does best.

Isn't that what Stubby does now? Let Rodgers do whatever the hell he wants? EVERY player needs coaching and I have a feeling Stubby is morphing into what happened with Sherman and Favre back in the day.

[texaspackerbacker]

Isn't that what Stubby does now? Let Rodgers do whatever the hell he wants? EVERY player needs coaching and I have a feeling Stubby is morphing into what happened with Sherman and Favre back in the day.

You got that right, and I wouldn't want it any other way. Less passing would be a step in the wrong direction. Reining in Rodgers or trying to change the way he plays the game would be a major step in the wrong direction.

[pbmax]

You got that right, and I wouldn't want it any other way. Less passing would be a step in the wrong direction. Reining in Rodgers or trying to change the way he plays the game would be a major step in the wrong direction.

A little less passing this year would relieve some pressure from Rodgers and give the team favorable down and distance considering that they are leading the league (or are just behind the Rams) in running efficiency.

I am not lover of ball control offense when you have talent on offense. But a little more would help the injured Rodgers and the pass blocking impaired O line quite a bit this year especially. So would fewer downfield shots on 2nd and 3rd and long.

If they nudged their first down ratio toward fifty/fifty, I think the offense would be considerably improved this year.

Then M3 would have time to solve special teams before they cost him his job.