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Before today we were a game behind 3 teams ('Skins, Seattle and MN) in the NFC that already beat us for the last WC spot. We had to run the table and those 3 teams have to implode for us to make the playoffs this year. This team hasn't resembled a playoff caliber team for a while now. Even if made the playoffs this team is nothing like the 2010 squad.Originally posted by yetisnowman View PostWe most certainly weren't eliminated last week, unless your just saying on an emotional, logical level. Carolina, Chicago, Minnesota, Atlanta, all lost today. 5-6-1 would have still left a reasonable chance.
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How do you know? Arod didn't exactly look like HOF material when he first got here.Originally posted by red View Postand drag them right back down into the gutter
they don't have a HOF QB to make him look goodI can't run no more
With that lawless crowd
While the killers in high places
Say their prayers out loud
But they've summoned, they've summoned up
A thundercloud
They're going to hear from me - Leonard Cohen
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So you were talking on an emotional, logical level. It's certainly possible 9-7 gets a wildcard this year. Washington's playing with a back up the rest of the way. We're behind some teams that are certainly capable of losing 3 of 5 or whatever. But i agree with your assessment otherwise. However today was basically the elimination game.Originally posted by Pugger View PostBefore today we were a game behind 3 teams ('Skins, Seattle and MN) in the NFC that already beat us for the last WC spot. We had to run the table and those 3 teams have to implode for us to make the playoffs this year. This team hasn't resembled a playoff caliber team for a while now. Even if made the playoffs this team is nothing like the 2010 squad.
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I also don’t care if they keep or release any of the coaches. Pettine has been..meh. The only coaches that I would like for them to retain are the CB coach because of the level of improvement and the OL coach who has been good for quite a while.
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I think Pettine has been good. Defense has given them a shot at every game despite not having a legit starter at Safety. Get him the horses and they'll be fine on defense.Originally posted by beveaux1 View PostI also don’t care if they keep or release any of the coaches. Pettine has been..meh. The only coaches that I would like for them to retain are the CB coach because of the level of improvement and the OL coach who has been good for quite a while.I can't run no more
With that lawless crowd
While the killers in high places
Say their prayers out loud
But they've summoned, they've summoned up
A thundercloud
They're going to hear from me - Leonard Cohen
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In my opinion, unless there were mitigating circumstances, this was a pretty classless move by an organization that doesn’t have the reputation of being classless. You have a coach that coached 13 years with only 2 losing seasons. He took us to 3 NFC Championship games and won a Super Bowl. He was a dead man walking this year, but he should have been afforded the chance to finish the season.
By mitigating circumstance, I mean if he asked the team to let him go the minute they decided he was not going to be their future coach.
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Originally posted by Joemailman View PostI think Pettine has been good. Defense has given them a shot at every game despite not having a legit starter at Safety. Get him the horses and they'll be fine on defense.
He’s been OK. They can’t really stop the run, because they sell out to stop the pass. The new coach should be given the opportunity to fill his staff.
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I did everything I could to get rid of him.Originally posted by pbmax View PostIt can't be coincidence that Rand was at the game today. Perhaps he had a word with Murphy at the pre-game.
Actually it was interesting that he was totally isolated the whole game on the sidelines. No one really talked to him much.
My theory that they were scuttling the team to make him look bad and get rid of him seems to be correct. I still think there’s a good chance he resurfaces in Cleveland. If he doesn’t, that tells you how damaged he is."Never, never ever support a punk like mraynrand. Rather be as I am and feel real sympathy for his sickness." - Woodbuck
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I shut off the TV after the game and went out to dinner. My grandson called me with the news - not really a shock. I'm mildly pleased that he is gone. There was a lot to not like about his coaching even in better years.
This could go one of two ways: We could get a guy who feels the need to rein in Aaron Rodgers, do more early down running, etc. OR we could get somebody who would play the whole game like most 4th quarters - unleash Aaron Rodgers, stop wasting early downs with running plays, etc. Everybody in here should know which one I prefer.
Anybody we get is gonna have some major adjusting to do. Wherever the guy coached, it's safe to say he is used to having an O Line that can actually block somebody as we basically don't. Wherever the guy came from, it's damn sure he didn't coach the (still) greatest QB in the history of the world. It's also fairly likely whatever team the guy was with had better defensive personnel than the Packers have.
I can take or leave Pettine. It wouldn't bother me at all if a new coach brought in somebody else. While it's true the Packer D personnel isn't what it should be, arguably the personnel was as good or better this season and unquestionably, the results were worse. That translates to Pettine's schemes not being worth much.
It will be an interesting off season. Whoever gets the job moves into a fantastic situation - Aaron Rodgers healthy and motivated alone makes this team top tier.What could be more GOOD and NORMAL and AMERICAN than Packer Football?
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