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  • #16
    This is the opening day defensive starting lineup

    Muhammad Wilkerson DE
    Kenny Clark NT
    Clay Matthews OLB
    Nick Perry OLB
    Blake Martinez ILB
    Josh Jackson CB
    Kevin King CB
    Tramon Williams CB
    Ha Ha Clinton-Dix S
    Kentrell Brice S
    Jermaine Whitehead S
    "Never, never ever support a punk like mraynrand. Rather be as I am and feel real sympathy for his sickness." - Woodbuck

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    • #17
      Originally posted by ND72 View Post
      local sports radio last year said "if you think it's scheme, it's Capers. If you think it's players, it's Thompson."

      I think it was both. And we have more work today on the player part before we can see substantial improvement.
      yup. they're better because players are better and the scheme is better. they seemed to struggle in the first halves of most games but tightened things up in the second. i hope the new guy wants to keep Pettine but whatever. injuries took their toll and the results showed it. depth. not enough cap room for depth and that will continue. it's all about the starters and their health...on both sides of the ball. they need another starting corner and safety in the worst way. o-line needs the right side totally rebuilt and some depth acquired (if possible).

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      • #18
        He should be rehired simply because he seemed to solve most secondary communication problems.
        Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.

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        • #19
          Originally posted by pbmax View Post
          He should be rehired simply because he seemed to solve most secondary communication problems.
          And that with a revolving door of personnel.
          When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro ~Hunter S.

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          • #20
            I want Al Harris as the next Pack DC.

            Pettine’s D is but a carbon copy of Capers. Anyone who disagrees, ask “Marty” Ice (Stafford).

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            • #21
              I've forgotten; what's a defense?
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              • #22
                Originally posted by ND72 View Post
                local sports radio last year said "if you think it's scheme, it's Capers. If you think it's players, it's Thompson."

                I think it was both. And we have more work today on the player part before we can see substantial improvement.
                Boom.

                That being said, our scheme didn't look any "sexier."

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                • #23
                  Originally posted by Anti-Polar Bear View Post
                  I want Al Harris as the next Pack DC.

                  Pettine’s D is but a carbon copy of Capers. Anyone who disagrees, ask “Marty” Ice (Stafford).
                  Have you seen the Chiefs D this year?

                  I am actually asking; the Hunt family is offering a reward.
                  Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.

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                  • #24
                    Defense is better overall. However the fundamentals are still sloppy as hell.

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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by pbmax View Post
                      Have you seen the Chiefs D this year?

                      I am actually asking; the Hunt family is offering a reward.
                      boycotting the NFL so, no, I have not once watched an Amerikan Indian Warriors game this season. Mahomes sure as fuck looks Caucasiod in full armor from the few highlights I saw on the YouTube.

                      Harris doesn’t call plays in KC, but I’m pretty sure their DBs look fine and dandy like ole Al himself when he was a shutdown corner for the Pack.

                      I would be totally fine and dandy if Marcia Marcia hires ole Al to be the next HC.

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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by pbmax View Post
                        Packers missed Randall after all

                        He might have outlasted Stubby if he could have avoided opening his yap at the end of the year.
                        Of course in Cleveland Randall isn't playing out of position...

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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by mraynrand View Post
                          This is the opening day defensive starting lineup

                          Muhammad Wilkerson DE
                          Kenny Clark NT
                          Clay Matthews OLB
                          Nick Perry OLB
                          Blake Martinez ILB
                          Josh Jackson CB
                          Kevin King CB
                          Tramon Williams CB
                          Ha Ha Clinton-Dix S
                          Kentrell Brice S
                          Jermaine Whitehead S
                          Plus we lost Jake Ryan to IR before the season started. In that last game against Detroit it resembled a preseason game. I didn't recognize half of the players out there.

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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by pbmax View Post
                            Have you seen the Chiefs D this year?

                            I am actually asking; the Hunt family is offering a reward.
                            KC's defense isn't stellar by any means. The reason they are winning is their offense is explosive.

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                            • #29
                              Originally posted by Rutnstrut View Post
                              Defense is better overall. However the fundamentals are still sloppy as hell.
                              This raises an interesting point and one that will be easier to break down after the new coach has been in GB for a while.

                              Every coach does things differently. McCarthy, both originally and in response to the 2011 CBA never did a tremendous amount of individual drill work. He also did not repeat plays until the play was run correctly for the most part (it did happen, but not the norm).

                              The individual drill thing is hard to read but McGinn used to be apoplectic that the Packers spent far less time under McCarthy than Sherman doing drills, especially after a sloppy performance. Its not that they did not do them, but that they were not a focus as much as they were under PSL. Its impossible to put this in any context because we lack numbers and have only observations from long ago, but I have always wondered if this cost players who needed to develop physically and technique wise after being drafted. Its also possible PSL was already an anachronism while he was doing drills that lasted forever. The one specific complaint I remember is that McCarthy would not let drills run long to complete some sequence or teaching point. He wanted everything done on time and at speed to help with conditioning, which was never a separate part of his camp practices (they did not run gassers before or after practice). He wanted necessary corrections to be done during position group meetings.

                              The other thing is repeating plays in 7 on 7 or 11 on 11 drills or scrimmages. Many coaches do/did this (Holmgren) but it can lead to long practices and interfere with the speed of the practice as you correct on the field. McCarthy would rather pull players to correct than re-run the play. Pull the offender, substitute in, correct behind the LOS so practice can continue.
                              Last edited by pbmax; 01-01-2019, 09:35 AM.
                              Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.

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                              • #30
                                Thought Pettine did a great job this year. Defense is not the dumpster fire it was under Capers. It's not great, but moving in the right direction.
                                All hail the Ruler of the Meadow!

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