Packers hiring LaFleur.

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We, and everyone else, may have been a little over our skis with reporting Pettine was back already.

Tom Silverstein @TomSilverstein
LaFleur said he has not had an opportunity to talk to Pettine yet about a job.

[Joemailman]

We, and everyone else, may have been a little over our skis with reporting Pettine was back already.

Tom Silverstein @TomSilverstein
LaFleur said he has not had an opportunity to talk to Pettine yet about a job.

Any chance Gutey or Murphy talked to Pettine before they hired LaFleur? There were even reports Pettine had agreed to return.

https://packerswire.usatoday.com/201...e-coordinator/

New Green Bay Packers coach Matt LaFleur will be retaining top defensive assistant Mike Pettine.

According to Rob Demovsky of ESPN, Pettine has agreed to stay on as the Packers’ defensive coordinator, a job he originally accepted from Mike McCarthy last January.

LaFleur expressed a desire to retain Pettine when he interviewed for the job Sunday. By Monday, the Packers had made up their mind.

All just speculation?

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We are all VERY old:

Wilde And Tausch @WildeAndTausch
Former #Packers WR Ruvell Martin was college roommates with the team’s new head coach, Matt LaFleur.

Martin joins the show now, listen live on @ESPNMadison/@ESPNMilwaukee!

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Any chance Gutey or Murphy talked to Pettine before they hired LaFleur? There were even reports Pettine had agreed to return.

https://packerswire.usatoday.com/201...e-coordinator/


All just speculation?

Sure. Also possible other things have happened. Of all the beat guys, Demovsky is probably got the most sources to scoop this, so I'd say it's likely. But they obviously aren't willing to confirm yet.

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Gute was the conduit to Rodgers, not Murphy. Maybe there is balance in the triangle firing squad after all.

https://madison.com/wsj/sports/football/professional/for-new-coach-matt-lafleur-connecting-with-aaron-rodgers-will/article_7328051e-b4af-50f8-9891-cd84fec39450.html?

GREEN BAY — Matt LaFleur wasn’t even the Green Bay Packers head coach yet when his iPhone started buzzing Monday.

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No, the call was from Packers quarterback Aaron Rodgers, who’d gotten the word from Gutekunst that LaFleur was going to be his next coach.

“That’s kind of how I had an idea that maybe I was in the running for it,” LaFleur said with a smile during his introductory news conference Wednesday at Lambeau Field.

Gutekunst later explained how the call happened — “Once we kind of narrowed in that Matt was our guy, I had Aaron reach out to him,” Gutekunst said — but the call underscored what LaFleur surely already knew before he even interviewed on Sunday: While the job obviously entails much more than just coaching the quarterback, his relationship and connection with Rodgers is crucial.

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Same Wilde article, and my first disappointment:

LaFleur, who said he will serve as the offensive play-caller, also made it clear that he and Rodgers must be on the same page during games.

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We are all VERY old:

Wilde And Tausch @WildeAndTausch
Former #Packers WR Ruvell Martin was college roommates with the team’s new head coach, Matt LaFleur.

Martin joins the show now, listen live on @ESPNMadison/@ESPNMilwaukee!

Cool fact: Martin, aside from being an offspring of interracial and accidentally getting his sword touched during a Lambert Leap, was Rodgers’ BFF when both were backups in Title-Town.

Rodgers don’t need a friend of a friend. He needs coach. Should’ve hired J-Mac.

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Cool fact: Martin, aside from being an offspring of interracial and accidentally getting his sword touched during a Lambert Leap, was Rodgers’ BFF when both were backups in Title-Town.

Rodgers don’t need a friend of a friend. He needs coach. Should’ve hired J-Mac.

Tank, Ruvell has been a theme on this board longer than memes have existed. We know this.

What people may have forgotten is that Ruvell was the original 5th member of the BIG FIVE wide receiver package. Driver, Jennings, Jones, Nelson, Martin. Later, Finley would take his spot.

[Anti-Polar Bear]

Tank, Ruvell has been a theme on this board longer than memes have existed. We know this.

What people may have forgotten is that Ruvell was the original 5th member of the BIG FIVE wide receiver package. Driver, Jennings, Jones, Nelson, Martin. Later, Finley would take his spot.

Let’s ask the Kentucky just to be sure, but I’m pretty confident the other original Big 5 was K-Rob, a Todd draft pick in Seattle, instead of J-Nel. Jordy never got the chance to play with Favre, thanks to Todd.

Looks like A-Rod endorses LaFluer. Could it be b/c LaFluer is a friend of Martin? I thought Murphy was like, A-Rod would have no say in the hire.

J-Mac wanted to coach in Green Bay. His agent even came up with rumors that the hapless Browns were interested in J-Mac; The goal was to get the Packers to hurry the fuck up and hire J-Mac. Rodgers would throw for 7000 yards/season with J-Mac.

Should’ve hired J-Mac. Who’s better, the winner and champion, or the guy that hasn’t won and done shit?

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Tank, Ruvell has been a theme on this board longer than memes have existed. We know this.

What people may have forgotten is that Ruvell was the original 5th member of the BIG FIVE wide receiver package. Driver, Jennings, Jones, Nelson, Martin. Later, Finley would take his spot.

If you're including TEs, then in 2008 Donald Lee was the fifth target. Ru had maybe 10 catches. And he gave way to Spencer Havner in 2009...

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If you're including TEs, then in 2008 Donald Lee was the fifth target. Ru had maybe 10 catches. And he gave way to Spencer Havner in 2009...

Did Lee split out wide? I don't remember that, but I also remember Franckenbacker mostly in the backfield.

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Did Lee split out wide? I don't remember that, but I also remember Franckenbacker mostly in the backfield.

While I imagine Lee and Franckenbacker did occasionally split out wide, the formation Big Five was five WR (with Ruvell) when we learned it was its own thing and not a LOS adjustment.

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Second thing that concerns me, they are totally in on this offense being the solution. That is not how it works best.

Tom Silverstein @TomSilverstein
ICYMI: Discussion in Green Bay since Matt LaFleur arrived has been about hiring either SF run game coordinator Mike McDaniel or SF pass game coordinator Mike LaFleur (Matt’s brother) as #Packers offensive coordinator. Unclear whether Kyle Shanahan would allow either one to leave.

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Michael Cohen @Michael_Cohen13
Murphy says the #Packers leadership council, which consists of veteran players, shared their belief that a sense of complacency had set in with coaches/players in Green Bay.

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While I imagine Lee and Franckenbacker did occasionally split out wide, the formation Big Five was five WR (with Ruvell) when we learned it was its own thing and not a LOS adjustment.

I'm only making the point (and this is now not addressing any point you were making) that Martin had maybe 25 targets, and I have no way of knowing, without watching the entire season over again, just how many came from five wide. So it was a thing, just not a big deal. What I find more interesting, looking back, was how Stubby could go from 5 wide to the inverted wishbone on the same set of downs. Not that these formations or Stubby had anything to do with Packer success - we all know that any success was due to Rodgers and luck.