The Rains of Green Bay

[George Cumby]

I just wish McDaniels would take another HC gig and end this circle jerk once and for all as he goes down in another fireball of his own making.

[Anti-Polar Bear]

Because the last guy to redo the offense was Charlie Weis. Now maybe Bill has gotten better at keeping a lid on things, but I have never read about McDaniels himself being the innovator. He could be, but the track record points to BB.

Dougherty called J-Mac an innovator in his latest column about J-Mac.

Belichick's forte is defense. Sure, he can and does add inputs to the offensive game plan, but usually, he's like, "Yo J-Mac, do your fucking job and find ways to exploit, expose and destroy Pettine's Caperseque D!"

[mraynrand]

Dougherty called J-Mac an innovator in his latest column about J-Mac.

If this is the article in question, that is factually untrue. And while Dougherty found many good things to say and report about J-Mac, much of the article presents the difficulties presented by J-Mac - and other BB disciples. A nuanced view, you could say. Rather than call him an innovator, sources remark on his brilliance, game planning and detail. In fact, they remark that he knows only one system, and that could be a problem:

“I don’t see that working out too well myself,” the source said. “… Josh is not going to change what he does. To his credit he does it very well, but Josh only knows one system. Aaron Rodgers knows one system. And they don’t know the same system. So which one is going to budge?”

https://www.jsonline.com/story/sport...te/2475213002/

[Anti-Polar Bear]

sources remark on his brilliance, game planning and detail.

If that's not innovator, then I don't know what is. Everybody and their baby's mama knew what the Packers were gonna do weekly on offense under McCarthy. NE runs different shit against different opponents.

[mraynrand]

If that's not innovator, then I don't know what is.

probably true

[pbmax]

I sometimes think that NFL Head Coaches frequently get themselves in a trap.

They sell sell sell their plan, program and scheme. Then when something doesn't work, they feel like they have three choices: 1)dump the scheme, 2)blame players or player acquisition, 3)blame luck, circumstances or injuries.

They will all choose #3 first and will find a roundabout way to invoke step 2 (breakdowns, miscommunication, step slow, bad week practice).

But they would rather you pull teeth than to change the basic system. Despite the fact that it is the one thing under their complete control, they think adjusting it for maximum flexibility is the path toward self-destruction.

Is McDLT an innovator? No idea. But Belichick innovates by insisting that the game plan completely change focus to allow them to do what they need to do.

[Anti-Polar Bear]

Am I dreaming, or did the Packers just hired the guy whose expertise is making non-white QBs ordinary - Just ask Mariota and RG3 - over the guy about to coordinate his, what, 50th Super Bowl?

Off with Murphy’s head!

[mraynrand]

Is McDLT an innovator? No idea. But Belichick innovates by insisting that the game plan completely change focus to allow them to do what they need to do.

Whomever is responsible, they played two completely different games yesterday. Opened by taking what the Chiefs would give (running the ball), and used that to their advantage to control the clock and reduce KC possessions. Then KC adjusted and they went to being a total passing offense. NE has decent players, but on each successful run and completion, the execution by the offense is precise and technically high-level. Everyone completely buys into the "do your job" mantra. And at the controls is Brady, setting the tempo for the entire team and game. KC didn't lay a finger on him for the most part. If the Rams want to win, they'd better alter Brady.

[pbmax]

Whomever is responsible, they played two completely different games yesterday. Opened by taking what the Chiefs would give (running the ball), and used that to their advantage to control the clock and reduce KC possessions. Then KC adjusted and they went to being a total passing offense. NE has decent players, but on each successful run and completion, the execution by the offense is precise and technically high-level. Everyone completely buys into the "do your job" mantra. And at the controls is Brady, setting the tempo for the entire team and game. KC didn't lay a finger on him for the most part. If the Rams want to win, they'd better alter Brady.

The pass rush started to make headway versus Brady in the second half, including that bad roughing the QB call. But when it mattered on that final drive, they got nowhere.

[texaspackerbacker]

APB. I'll give you that McDaniels is a good coach, but two things: I'm very hopeful that the guy the Packers got will also be a very good coach, and secondly, even if McDaniels didn't do to the Packers what he did to the Colts, there's a strong chance IMO that he would still be the prime candidate to be Belichick's successor and would leave the Packers in a few years for that reason.

[Anti-Polar Bear]

APB. I'll give you that McDaniels is a good coach, but two things: I'm very hopeful that the guy the Packers got will also be a very good coach, and secondly, even if McDaniels didn't do to the Packers what he did to the Colts, there's a strong chance IMO that he would still be the prime candidate to be Belichick's successor and would leave the Packers in a few years for that reason.

In this realm of avarice, it’s always soothing every time the underdog or the downtrodden gets an opportunity, not saying that LaFuer is an underdog. But in a win or die league, the Packers need to be maximizing the Great Arm of Butte’s remaining prime years, before he inevitably grows old and important in the arena.

The math favors the Packers winning Super Bowls with J-Mac than with LaFuer. I mean one guy is about to coach in his 50th Super Bowl, while the other guy is infamous for fucking up RG3’s career.

[texaspackerbacker]

As for your first paragraph, when you're right, you're right.

As for your second paragraph, I wouldn't really accuse LaFleur of fucking up RG3's career either; Bad luck was mostly responsible for that. A lot of other running QBs have survived and had long careers. If by math, you mean betting odds, maybe gamblers would have more confidence in McDaniels than LaFleur, but it's all speculation at this point. And I have a good feeling about the future with LaFleur.