The Official Fire Mike Pettine Thread

[Joemailman]

It will be interesting to see the reaction if Pettine is let go. Will Pettine be seen as a scapegoat? Many Packer defensive stats don't look that terrible:

Some defensive ranks:

Points Allowed - 9th

Yards per play - 17th

Turnovers - 25th

Passing yards allowed - 7th

Passing yards allowed per attempt - 10th

Passer rating allowed - 13th

Sacks - 11th

Rushing yards allowed - 13th

Rushing yards allowed per attempt - 21st

3rd down conversions allowed - 10th

I'm not saying he shouldn't be let go. Considering the high draft picks and free agent signings invested in this defense, I think they've underperformed. But the decision on whether to let Pettine go isn't as cut and dried as it was with Mennenga.

[Fritz]

When you're an angry Packer fan whose favored, at-home team just lost the NFC Championship game and watched Tom Brady throw a TD at the end of the half to a defense that was not playing prevent in the one situation they should've been, it is an easy decision.

[GB-Brandon]

When you're an angry Packer fan whose favored, at-home team just lost the NFC Championship game and watched Tom Brady throw a TD at the end of the half to a defense that was not playing prevent in the one situation they should've been, it is an easy decision.

It really is an “Easy Decision.” If your not gonna set a level of “Accountability” then just Fuck the whole thing!!!

[GB-Brandon]

When the play happened before the second half ended I thought I was watching something after the whistle maybe had gone off in real time and it was a dead play or something. That can just never happen on your watch in a game of that magnitude. Pettine has been a failure for this defense leading up to that moment!! It was like the Packers were gently carrying a bomb into Lambeau Field for the NFC Champ Game with Mike Pettine’s name written on it and that Bomb EXPLODED!!!

It’s several people’s fault for this mayhem!!!

[RashanGary]

It will be interesting to see the reaction if Pettine is let go. Will Pettine be seen as a scapegoat? Many Packer defensive stats don't look that terrible:

Some defensive ranks:

Points Allowed - 9th

Yards per play - 17th

Turnovers - 25th

Passing yards allowed - 7th

Passing yards allowed per attempt - 10th

Passer rating allowed - 13th

Sacks - 11th

Rushing yards allowed - 13th

Rushing yards allowed per attempt - 21st

3rd down conversions allowed - 10th

I'm not saying he shouldn't be let go. Considering the high draft picks and free agent signings invested in this defense, I think they've underperformed. But the decision on whether to let Pettine go isn't as cut and dried as it was with Mennenga.

If the defense drafts a corner high
Develops those two ILBs
and
Deepens the DL depth (even keeping snacks might do this)


I think they have a chance without replacing the coordibator. It's not like Pettine has been bad for Amos, Savage or Alexander. King just sort of never figured it out when everyone else was. Tells me it's a king problem not a pettine problem.

[RashanGary]

Rodgers once had a back handed insult toward king I should have taken notice of. King was in his 3rd year and Alexander his second. Someone said the young corners are starting to figure it out. Rodgers said king wasn’t that young (meaning he should have it figured out.) I shoulda noticed that back handed complinsult right away and realized king just was not getting it.

[texaspackerbacker]

The decision on Pettine comes down to either liking the current scheme or not liking it. LaFleur should have a pretty good grasp on what gives an offense trouble and what doesn't. Myself, I used to like this scheme - 3-4, a lot of man coverage, quite a bit of blitzing, etc. I've been coming around lately, though, to wishing we played more zone. If we hadn't lost, I'm pretty sure Pettine would have been retained - whether any of us like it or not. Even with the loss, I'd say it is 50/50 or better he stays. 13-3 two years in a row says somebody is doing something right. Don't get me wrong, I would still fire him, but I kinda doubt LaFleur et al see it that way.

[th87]

If the defense drafts a corner high
Develops those two ILBs
and
Deepens the DL depth (even keeping snacks might do this)


I think they have a chance without replacing the coordibator. It's not like Pettine has been bad for Amos, Savage or Alexander. King just sort of never figured it out when everyone else was. Tells me it's a king problem not a pettine problem.

There are like 5 first rounders and 4 expensive FAs on this defense, and it still couldn't be better than mediocre on its best day. And then you have no-name running backs setting NFL records and one of the worst pre-halftime defenses I've ever seen.

And how is he even qualified for this job? His claim to fame is knowing Rex Ryan.

[th87]

The decision on Pettine comes down to either liking the current scheme or not liking it. LaFleur should have a pretty good grasp on what gives an offense trouble and what doesn't. Myself, I used to like this scheme - 3-4, a lot of man coverage, quite a bit of blitzing, etc. I've been coming around lately, though, to wishing we played more zone. If we hadn't lost, I'm pretty sure Pettine would have been retained - whether any of us like it or not. Even with the loss, I'd say it is 50/50 or better he stays. 13-3 two years in a row says somebody is doing something right. Don't get me wrong, I would still fire him, but I kinda doubt LaFleur et al see it that way.

13-3 with catastrophic defensive meltdowns in the end.

[Jaire]

King was the weak link. Otherwise they did a good job.

They need a CB2 and another good DT. It's close.

[RashanGary]

King was the weak link. Otherwise they did a good job.

They need a CB2 and another good DT. It's close.

Pretty much. Keke taking a nice third year leap along with the ILBs taking big second year leaps has a shot at getting us close. Definitely need a DT to start developing though.

CB2..... man I hope we luck out with one in the draft. Brandon suggests a free agent corner, which isn’t a horrible idea considering it takes a year or two to develop usually. Maybe cut Preston and sign a corner. I dunno, only one team wins it every year. Every team takes some developmental gambles every year and one team wins more than everyone else at it. No sure things in football. You can sign Bakh to an extension to ensure the OL is stable and he can be injured a week later for a season. Just no guarantees.

I like the concept of free agents being sure fire fixes but I don’t like the practice of it as far as shit can happen anyway.

[texaspackerbacker]

I'm almost leaning toward cutting Zadarius instead of Preston, assuming they don't take my advice and go all in for backloading contracts, etc. If sacrifices need to be made, supposedly Z costs $20 million against the cap while P is just $9 million. And as bad as Preston looked most of the season, he picked it up some in late games. Zadarius seems to me to get a lot of mileage going after "low-hanging fruit" - mistakes or flukes by other teams. He tends to disappear against better teams, and he shows disturbing lack of discipline in setting the edge against outside runs and lack of strength against inside runs.

Yes, we do need a quality Corner, way better than King or Sullivan or Jackson, or if not need, it certainly would be nice to have one.

All of this, though, would be improved by getting a new D Coordinator.

[Zool]

King was the weak link. Otherwise they did a good job.

They need a CB2 and another good DT. It's close.

And 2 more ILBs. Ty Summers was "covering" people in the second half of the game. He trailed almost every play that came near him. He should be ST guy at best right now. Kirksey should be the off the bench specialist.
And 2 more DEs. Take Clark off the Dline, and they are the epitome of below average. Keke was playing better, but Lowry? Lancaster? Aren't those 2 guys you try to replace ASAP?

[GB-Brandon]

The never ending “Shopping List” for defensive talent that’s only been going on for 10 plus years now!!

So much fun!!!

[call_me_ishmael]

I tend to agree that Z is a bit overrated. Pettine is gone!