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It's personnel.....Slaleh suddenly isn't looking like such a genius anymore either......Packers cannot draft d linemen to save their lives....I'll make it simple....aggregate the top D linemen from the SEC and when your pick is up see who is there from said list and take them...when your line is kick ass the other levels of D improve by default.......I remember Ray Lewis having 'down' years when the line play wasn't so dominating.....same thing all over....our personnel SUCKS....milquetoast.....
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Mediocre defense is in the organization's DNA.
I've said for a long time now, they need to do a deep dive into their evaluation process, and the people they have within the organization providing evaluations and making decisions.
They care nothing about the ILB position... it's amazing how inept they are.wistComment
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TERD Buckley over Troy Vincent, Robert Ferguson over Chris Chambers, Kevn King instead of TJ Watt, and now, RICH GANNON, over JIMMY JIMMY JIMMY LEONARD. Thank you FLOWERComment
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For those in favor of firing Pettine, this captures it nicely.
I'm warming up to the idea of getting a new DC, but I think a midseason switch would be tricky.Comment
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They could make Jerry Gray or whoever the interim guy without much disruption if they think Pettine is getting sloppy or letting the team get too undisciplined. Sometimes it seems like that. I don't really think the scheme is the problem.What could be more GOOD and NORMAL and AMERICAN than Packer Football?Comment
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If the D shits the bed tonight, upon landing, they should immediately drive Pettine from the airport to the box on his desk.Comment
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Bump. Natives are getting restless.I can't run no more
With that lawless crowd
While the killers in high places
Say their prayers out loud
But they've summoned, they've summoned up
A thundercloud
They're going to hear from me - Leonard CohenComment
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Take Amos with him and I’m on board.Originally posted by 3irty1Comment
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In this NFL no defense has the upper hand over the opposing offense week after week. But it just seems the Packers defense never really has the upper hand. Time to move on.I can't run no more
With that lawless crowd
While the killers in high places
Say their prayers out loud
But they've summoned, they've summoned up
A thundercloud
They're going to hear from me - Leonard CohenComment
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This is true and I have been saying this since the offseason. It’s a “Pitch And Catch League.” Unless the Packers get top ten picks for 3-5 years and hit home runs on those picks and then spend all their $ on the defense they are not going to have this big “Championship Level Defense” that people have in their minds. It’s simply not happening in today’s NFL landscape.Originally posted by Joemailman View Post
Even with all that stated above you would still need to get rid of Pettine in addition as he is incompetent!! Some of us came to that conclusion at the end of last season.
With Aaron Rodgers and how much $ it costs to have Aaron Rodgers and in “The New NFL” the Packers best path to glory is to have a stacked and high powered offense that can score at will with a defense that can play well with the lead and create some turnovers.
Unfortunately, Brian Gutekunst and Mike Pettine aren’t the correct people for the above equation to work.Comment
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Its always been a giant PIPE DREAM!!Comment
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Count me in on the fire Pettine train. I've been sitting on the fence about this for a long time, but today was the final straw. We saw how a real D Coordinator adjusted in the second half - against us. That's part of it. Another thing is the apparent chaos and disorganization of the Packer D for most of the game. In addition, our D players had no discipline and little quality fundamentals - not setting the edge, missing tackles, blowing coverages, etc.
The reason I had doubts about getting rid of Pettine was that I generally like his scheme. I wouldn't mind at all replacing him with somebody like Jim Leonhard who has a similar scheme, but presumably is a better coach.What could be more GOOD and NORMAL and AMERICAN than Packer Football?Comment
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I know people like exotic schemes and smoke and mirrors, but what if they played a simpler defense with more sound principles? I think Pettine's D has some fun wrinkles, but I wonder if they are playing a lot of young guys (or will have to because of the cap) if it would be easier to play something less exotic. I mean, they are already aiming for a bend-don't break thing now, and they have players like Clark, Smith, etc. who can win a 1-1 matchup.
There are many things about Pettine's D that I think are good, but I also see flaws and feel like they are less than the sum of their parts and only get by on individuals making an occasional play (which is happening less this year). This is not a disciplined, swarming to the ball D. Maybe that's scheme, maybe it's coaching. Blake's comments about being a clean up guy indicate there's a lot of gambling going on and probably not enough communication. Hard to play as one when you can't trust guys to be where they should because they are guessing.
Do you feel confident they will stop a team on 3rd or 4th down? I don't.Comment
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They drafted a bunch of duds and They hired the wrong Guy. Get over it already!!
Total DYSFUNCTION!!!!!Comment
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It would be one thing if playing small over and over again was benefitting the pass defense but I can't say that it is. We still give up passes over the middle consistently. I'm not expecting the defense to dominate but I do expect them to at least try to play to the offenses weakness. Rivers has a weak arm so you'd think you'd want to make him throw outside the hashes right? Instead, Rivers picks up the majority of his yards to the middle of the field yesterday.Go PACKComment
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