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  • Originally posted by call_me_ishmael View Post
    I tend to agree that Z is a bit overrated. Pettine is gone!
    Off the hip I agree with you. Then I checked his stats, virtually identical to 2019:

    Total Tackles: Sacks: TFL: QB Hits:
    2019: 55 13.5 17 37
    2020: 52 12.5 12 23

    I'm guessing Gary's emergence accounts for some of the drop, but Z just felt less disruptive this season.

    edit: sorry about the formatting, blame it on Mad.

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    • Z is not the problem. The problem has been the same problem for quite some time which is having a legitimate piece next to KC. This is what is needed to take the front to the next level creating better matchups for everyone and raising the overall level of the defense. It’s really hard and even harder with things being slanted towards the offenses on rule changes etc. I’m not sure we’ll ever see a Super Elite Defense ever again but who knows.

      This is why with the Packers offense and Aaron Rodgers contract the pathway for this team is obvious!

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      • How Many 1st round draft picks and high valued UFA's do we have on Defense as opposed to Offense ?

        Thank AROD is making everybody around him better now ?
        TERD Buckley over Troy Vincent, Robert Ferguson over Chris Chambers, Kevn King instead of TJ Watt, and now, RICH GANNON, over JIMMY JIMMY JIMMY LEONARD. Thank you FLOWER

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        • Originally posted by Bretsky View Post
          How Many 1st round draft picks and high valued UFA's do we have on Defense as opposed to Offense ?

          Thank AROD is making everybody around him better now ?
          He completed his first pass EVER too a first round draft pick this year(A washed up Tavon Austin) and that should put the whole thing into perspective & context. Yet the yearly “Corner, Corner, Corner, Corner” Chant has already started in the draft thread!!!! It really amazes me!! No prospect in mind just “Corner.”

          The whole pattern and way of doing things around here is just so warped. People will go to their grave believing in this backwards way of getting this thing done. Nothing will change their minds!! Nothing!! I believe 100 percent Gute believes this way too. The only chance is Rodgers puts it all on the table when he meets with the Packer Brass next week. Please do it Aaron!!!!!! Shove it right up their ass’s and demand & or!! It’s our only HOPE!!!!
          Last edited by GB-Brandon; 01-29-2021, 06:29 PM.

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          • It’s gonna take some form of “Rebellion” from our great leader Aaron Rodgers to get this thing on track to Get Over The Hump!!

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            • It’s gonna take a lot!
              Last edited by GB-Brandon; 01-29-2021, 07:26 PM.

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              • Originally posted by RashanGary View Post
                Pretty much. Keke taking a nice third year leap along with the ILBs taking big second year leaps has a shot at getting us close. Definitely need a DT to start developing though.

                CB2..... man I hope we luck out with one in the draft. Brandon suggests a free agent corner, which isn’t a horrible idea considering it takes a year or two to develop usually. Maybe cut Preston and sign a corner. I dunno, only one team wins it every year. Every team takes some developmental gambles every year and one team wins more than everyone else at it. No sure things in football. You can sign Bakh to an extension to ensure the OL is stable and he can be injured a week later for a season. Just no guarantees.

                I like the concept of free agents being sure fire fixes but I don’t like the practice of it as far as shit can happen anyway.
                Regarding free agent CB the only one we might afford is Hilton from the Steelers. And he would def be a big upgrade over king. Or he is a product of the Steelers.
                In the draft there are two lineage prospects I like. Surtain and asante Samuel jr. One might drop to us. They pick up hilton and Samuel jr and that would be a huge improvement.
                If we want a dt what about Shelby Harris? Or is he out of our price range?
                All tyrannies rule through fraud and force, but once the fraud is exposed they must rely exclusively on force.

                George Orwell

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                • Originally posted by GB-Brandon View Post
                  Z is not the problem.
                  Z isn't the problem, but for a $20 million cap hit, he damn well better be the solution, and against good teams, he hasn't often been that.
                  What could be more GOOD and NORMAL and AMERICAN than Packer Football?

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                  • Football is won on the Lines no ifs ands or buts about it. IDC who your linebackers are if the D line is weak they will get neutralized. Running game is all about the O line. Your other D levels improve automatically with a kick ass D line. The problem in GB is the scouting and drafting. They have spent a lot on 1st round picks and cannot seem to look in the mirror and realize they suck at it. Aggregate all the top SEC linemen and get as many as possible and see who sticks.

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                    • Z is not the problem. He was productive and disruptive this year. The problem is, few others were. Preston Smith took a step back, and while Gary improved, it wasn't enough. Outside of Kenny "Mr. December" Clark (who was out hurt several games this season) there wasn't much pass rush on the DL either.
                      Pressures were down, even if sacks weren't off much. They were far more disruptive last year. That tells me teams figured out some of their tricks.

                      Is Z making a lot of money, or overpaid? Possibly, but that's what happens when you swim in the FA waters (which 6 win teams do).

                      Honestly, letting his contract expire and not rehiring him is a nice ending. GB can get a new DC, and Pettine can get a new gig somewhere touting he coached playoff defenses and wasn't fired doing it.

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