PI reviews: be still my beating heart

[call_me_ishmael]

I agree with limiting PI to 15 yards, that seems like a no-brainer.

Maybe it was always this way, but it seems like PI has increasingly becoming a huge part of the offensive gaming. If you have a tall receiver, maybe your offense is struggling - just chuck the ball far downfield. Good chance of PI, at worst the tall guy can knock the ball down. PI has taken over the game way too much.

I think we under-estimate how much the increasingly excellent TV replays have become part of the entertainment. It's as much fun as the live action. The TV replays offer such a superior view that what the ref calls in heat of the moment almost seems irrelevant.

I think opposition to replay review is now mostly from men whose balls hang down around their knees. I expect the kiddies under 35 wonder why everything isn't decided by technology.

Great post. I agree on all accounts.

[mraynrand]

I think opposition to replay review is now mostly from men whose balls hang down around their knees.

This kind of second level research you do is disturbing.

[Patler]

I agree with limiting PI to 15 yards, that seems like a no-brainer.

Maybe it was always this way, but it seems like PI has increasingly becoming a huge part of the offensive gaming. If you have a tall receiver, maybe your offense is struggling - just chuck the ball far downfield. Good chance of PI, at worst the tall guy can knock the ball down. PI has taken over the game way too much.

I think we under-estimate how much the increasingly excellent TV replays have become part of the entertainment. It's as much fun as the live action. The TV replays offer such a superior view that what the ref calls in heat of the moment almost seems irrelevant.

I think opposition to replay review is now mostly from men whose balls hang down around their knees. I expect the kiddies under 35 wonder why everything isn't decided by technology.

So, if a DB is out of position to make a play on anything over 15 yards, just tackle the guy to limit the yardage gained to the "no-brainer" 15 yard penalty.

OF COURSE pi is an increasing part of offensive gaming. The rule changes keep expanding the definition of pi, and/or making it increasingly difficult for defenders to do anything other than tackle the guy after the completion; and then they have to be careful not to hit him too hard, or too hard too soon even after the catch, and/or where or how the hit is made. Part of offensive gaming is now putting the defender in a position where he can't help but commit a violation of some sort, or not contest the completion at all. Even WRs admitted that under the rules a couple years ago, they could get pi called almost whenever they wanted, by simply running down the field beyond 5 years and just running right into the DB.

[Harlan Huckleby]

So, if a DB is out of position to make a play on anything over 15 yards, just tackle the guy to limit the yardage gained to the "no-brainer" 15 yard penalty.

That occasionally happens in the college game. More like rarely. It doesn't seem to ruin anything, 15 yards ain't chicken feed. And the penalty stops the clock for extended time, not really that sweet of an option for D.

[Harlan Huckleby]

The rule changes keep expanding the definition of pi, and/or making it increasingly difficult for defenders

ya, that's undoubtedly the main reason for so much PI

[texaspackerbacker]

The Saint's play was a no call. So, no. They are reviewable. Throw the flag. Or hope the box reviews it.

The Saints play was the main one I had in mind. There was no flag; So no PI, hence STILL no review of that sort of play, right?

Or what could happen is the refs decide, when in doubt, throw the flag, and let it be challenged. Then what? Is the presumption that the call was correct, and indisputable evidence is needed to overturn it? You hardly ever have indisputable evidence either way on pass interference plays. And are they gonna give coaches more challenges now that there likely will be more challengeable plays?

Bottom line: I think they shoulda left well enough alone.

[pbmax]

I might consider fixed yard penalty for PI, but its got to be north of 20 yards.

[mraynrand]

I might consider fixed yard penalty for PI, but its got to be north of 20 yards.

maybe all PI penalties should be half the distance to the goal

[Harlan Huckleby]

I might consider fixed yard penalty for PI, but its got to be north of 20 yards.

I'd cut-off a finger. PI problem? No problem. Retired DBs would show-off their missing finger like old hockey goalies are proud of their missing teeth.

I go back to the college game. The 15 yard penalty works beautifully. (I'm channeling Trump now.) The unnoticed booth review of every play works beautifully. Beautiful overtime system. Players forced to work for free - beautiful.

Why reinvent the wheel?

[Deputy Nutz]

Someone once said "when you use the slippery slope argument, you've already lost the argument". Like Rand said, the only possible sticking point in this is the last 2 minutes of each half. I understand that change is difficult and scary, but we'll get through this.

I will throw you down a slippery slope.

[ThunderDan]

That occasionally happens in the college game. More like rarely. It doesn't seem to ruin anything, 15 yards ain't chicken feed. And the penalty stops the clock for extended time, not really that sweet of an option for D.

The one thing about college I don't like is the clock stopping after every first down to move the chains. Maybe that would be good for MM and his time out strategy. This rule diminishes the value of time outs late in the game.

[Harlan Huckleby]

The one thing about college I don't like is the clock stopping after every first down to move the chains. Maybe that would be good for MM and his time out strategy. This rule diminishes the value of time outs late in the game.

I'm not so emotional about the value of time outs. I like exciting comebacks at ends of games. But perhaps that college rule would be too much of a good thing for the highly efficient pro passing game. We already give them every advantage.

[Harlan Huckleby]

I will throw you down a slippery slope.

You got me thinking about Zool's forehead

[pbmax]

maybe all PI penalties should be half the distance to the goal

I like it except Belichick would mug everyone inside the 5 (Polish Defense).

In other words, status quo.

[mraynrand]

I like it except Belichick would mug everyone inside the 5 (Polish Defense).

In other words, status quo.

Depends on whether they change the automatic first down or not.