PI reviews: be still my beating heart

[mraynrand]

Should home plate umpires call balls and strikes? Couldn't technology do that more accurately? But, should it?

It's gonna happen eventually. You know this.

[mraynrand]

Perhaps I did misunderstand you. I interpreted your statement;

to be a desire for that eventuality. If I took it out of context, I apologize.

there is no need to apologize.

The Jerry Rice fumble doesn't bother me because the final results of a game do not matter all that much to me. I enjoy the drama and excitement of the performance, but am not much invested in the wins and loses. Perhaps that comes from having had to watch the Packers through out the '70s and '80s, after the '60s. An act of self preservation on my part!

I understand you better. But you must know that you're not the typical fan. You probably like that, no?

[mraynrand]

Two things: 1. This could bite the Packers in the ass more than it helps us. 2. It seems to me that there have been many more and far more egregious NO CALLS of pass interference than PI calls. Am I correct in assuming that these NO CALLS are still not reviewable?

The Saint's play was a no call. So, no. They are reviewable. Throw the flag. Or hope the box reviews it.

[gbgary]

hail mary's, pick plays, and excessive hand fighting, are going to be dicey.

[Anti-Polar Bear]

Because other penalties are max 15 yards. PI penalties could potentially be HUGE yardage. Actually, instead of reviewing PI, they should make the penalty max 15 like college.

I favor the new rule, and it’s pretty much a given that all flags/no calls will eventually be reviewable, which is a good thing.

An offensive holding is only 10 yards, but imagine Rodgers, in the clutch, throwing a 70 yards TD bomb to DK Metcalf for the lead only to have a phantom flag pops out of thin air on Bak for, allegedly, offensive holding.

[Deputy Nutz]

Because other penalties are max 15 yards. PI penalties could potentially be HUGE yardage. Actually, instead of reviewing PI, they should make the penalty max 15 like college.

I agree that PI calls should be max 15 yards. I would also say that no penalty beside a personal foul penalty should be an automatic first down.

[mraynrand]

I would also say that no penalty beside a personal foul penalty should be an automatic first down.

I could get behind this. But I think down and distance should be a factor. Maybe a defensive holding on 3rd and more than 10 should be a 10 yard penalty. 3rd and less than 10 should be a fiver. All other downs it's a fiver.

[Patler]

I understand you better. But you must know that you're not the typical fan. You probably like that, no?

Ya, I guess I do. I will admit that back in the days when I had to go to an office to work, I kind of looked forward to the days after a Packers loss, just to marvel at how much some people would let it bother them. For some, a simple: "Did you see the game?" would set off an angry tirade. Others just moped around as if a cherished pet had died.

I actually think team loyalty to that extreme has diminished some, perhaps due to fantasy leagues making a lot of fans cheer for and be very pleased with the success of other players and teams. Winning their fantasy game makes up for it.

[pbmax]

non sequitur. Pussifing the game/political intrusions have nothing to do with reviewing bad calls.

I'm in favor of eliminating cut blocks. I don't enjoy seeing players purposely injured, even Jim McMahon (although that one was close).

Even as a Browns fan, I was in favor but willing to acknowledge it was wrong. But oh so much fun to watch.

A Browns player did this to Bradshaw at some point (Turkey Jones I think) but I believe those bastards still won the game.

[pbmax]

Because other penalties are max 15 yards. PI penalties could potentially be HUGE yardage. Actually, instead of reviewing PI, they should make the penalty max 15 like college.

No. Huge incentive to foul late in half.

[pbmax]

It's gonna happen eventually. You know this.

This should be happening today.

[pbmax]

Review all plays. Coaches get same 3 challenges. Forget the 2 minute booth review.

Done. Only people who would object would be all the coaches.

[pbmax]

The League does make this tougher on themselves with poor rule making.

They tried to clear up catch - not a catch and then Calvin Johnson happened. It was a good, sensible effort to try to eliminate minuscule movements that could change the play and make it possible for refs to call live.

But instead of modifying the rules for the end zone or putting back in two steps, they denied it was a problem for 3 years. Then they changed it back to 3.5 steps and a football move anyway.

One thing they could do was go with one foot in bounds. Would make it easier to watch the catch at same time.

[Harlan Huckleby]

I agree with limiting PI to 15 yards, that seems like a no-brainer.

Maybe it was always this way, but it seems like PI has increasingly becoming a huge part of the offensive gaming. If you have a tall receiver, maybe your offense is struggling - just chuck the ball far downfield. Good chance of PI, at worst the tall guy can knock the ball down. PI has taken over the game way too much.

I think we under-estimate how much the increasingly excellent TV replays have become part of the entertainment. It's as much fun as the live action. The TV replays offer such a superior view that what the ref calls in heat of the moment almost seems irrelevant.

I think opposition to replay review is now mostly from men whose balls hang down around their knees. I expect the kiddies under 35 wonder why everything isn't decided by technology.

[Harlan Huckleby]

BTW, I think the NFL should make no game rules at all. They should just adopt the NCAA rules. College does everything better.