Official 2019 Workout/OTA/Minicamp Thread

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I wonder if this is just pumping up Davis to trade him...they tried that last year. If he's actually made some strides in his play, that would be very good news. He's a good athlete and should push J'Mon and Kumerow for a roster spot.

a 5th round pick that has done next to nothing in 3 years has no trade value

[ThunderDan]

a 5th round pick that has done next to nothing in 3 years has no trade value

A bag of footballs is a bag of footballs.

[mraynrand]

a 5th round pick that has done next to nothing in 3 years has no trade value

7th round conditional at best. roll 'o tape may be more likely.

[SudsMcBucky]

A bag of footballs is a bag of footballs.

This post is why a "like" button is a necessity.

[pbmax]

What are the odds these are season highlights?

Knees and hamstrings work better in shorts, as we all know by now.

APRISIAM (assuming players remain in shorts is a mistake)

[texaspackerbacker]

I would think Davis would need to beat out Moore both as a returner - very possible - and as a receiver - not likely, as well as outperforming Kumerow to make the team. It's a good problem to have, and explains why the Packers didn't do what media, etc. expected - go for even more WRs.

[Anti-Polar Bear]

I would think Davis would need to beat out Moore both as a returner - very possible - and as a receiver - not likely, as well as outperforming Kumerow to make the team. It's a good problem to have, and explains why the Packers didn't do what media, etc. expected - go for even more WRs.

Davis? Kum? Moore? Give me
3 weeks to get in shape, I’ll be able to shut down those wankers without breaking a sweat. Hell, throw in that sloth Allison and St. Paul as well.

The Packers have the worst receiving crop in the NFL. Even the Tennessee Titans have a better group (try to name a Titan WR of the top of your head). The receiving end of A-Rod’s wrath will be the reason the Packers won’t win the Super Bowl 54 - as I wrote previously, I refuse to use Roman numerals b/c of the Roman’s persecution of Spartacus and his ilk.

Shoulda drafted Metcalf. And Isabella.

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7th round conditional at best. roll 'o tape may be more likely.

thats what i'm thinking

a throw away pick

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I would think Davis would need to beat out Moore both as a returner - very possible - and as a receiver - not likely, as well as outperforming Kumerow to make the team. It's a good problem to have, and explains why the Packers didn't do what media, etc. expected - go for even more WRs.

has anyone heard anything about moore?

he was the highet drafted of the WRs last year, and by far the least exciting

[mraynrand]

I would think Davis would need to beat out Moore both as a returner - very possible - and as a receiver - not likely.

What do you base the 'not likely' on? Moore was befuddled by the playbook last year. You have new info?

[texaspackerbacker]

What do you base the 'not likely' on? Moore was befuddled by the playbook last year. You have new info?

You know this how? Because some damn media pukes say so? Even if true, that is a problem that good coaching should be able to overcome. He was not drafted where he was for no reason. That plus the fact that Davis has never set the world on fire as a receiver makes me say, "not likely".

[run pMc]

What do you base the 'not likely' on? Moore was befuddled by the playbook last year. You have new info?

Well I do think it's a 3 person race for what's likely to be the last WR spot. The off season fluff pieces were about how Moore rededicated himself blah blah blah. When Kumerow doesn't hurt himself diving into the endzone in preseason I'll take him more seriously. LOL
Davis needs to impress to stick -- he's had the most chances IMO. Zook liked him as a returner, but I think they have others who can return a punt. They tried to trade him last year, I don't know what would change unless MLF and Co. think they can get more out of him...but I have visions of him shortarming a deep throw from Rodgers and he's been hurt a lot.

Honestly the last WR is gonna need to play a lot of ST, and it's way too early to call. Nobody will know until TC. I do think Allison, MVS and St. Brown will show improvement APRH. If Adams is hurt it's a very unproven group, and that's a risk.
FWIW I'm skeptical a rookie like Metcalf (built like a tank and about as agile) would change that.

[ThunderDan]

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There is. There should be a star in the bottom left hand corner of every post. You can like or dislike there.

[mraynrand]

You know this how? Because some damn media pukes say so? Even if true, that is a problem that good coaching should be able to overcome. He was not drafted where he was for no reason. That plus the fact that Davis has never set the world on fire as a receiver makes me say, "not likely".

So you based your views again on what comes out your anus. Got it.

P.S. Moore said it himself.

“I’ve always been honest with myself. I’m never the type to point fingers,” Moore said. “Me knowing what I can do and what type of player I’ve always been, if I’m not playing, it’s always my fault. It ain’t nobody else’s fault but mine. I don’t blame them for it.

“I wouldn’t put me out there if I’m messing up things, not really knowing my assignments, not doing the small things right. Because that’s the difference on this level. Small things. If you’re not doing the small things right, it doesn’t come together how it needs.”

It didn’t come together for Moore because, in a nutshell, he never caught up mentally to the pro game and how Aaron Rodgers quarterbacks an offense. As a result, he couldn’t be counted on to make the proper adjustments on the fly and be in the right spot at the right time.

In discussing the speed of the game as the biggest difference between the college and NFL level, the 6-foot-3, 205-pound Moore clarified it wasn’t about the physical speed but the mental speed. Everything from checks at the line to reading coverages and adjusting routes requires immediate processing, but Moore confessed he didn’t do that quickly and consistently enough to be reliable.

Maybe he'll improve. Adams seems to suggest he's growing this offseason. Keep hope alive!

[pbmax]

https://www.packersnews.com/story/sports/nfl/packers/dougherty/2019/06/09/dougherty-packers-should-expect-more-after-defensive-overhaul/1369204001/

1. Makes a good point about #8 in sacks didn't mean the pass rush was anything to write home about
2. Doesn't make that case with anything other than, "ask anyone", so have hired out to Joe for pressure numbers
3. Pettine made a comment that suggested this defense needed large, explosive athletes but he did not need to tell Gutekunst that; he was there before the meeting
4. Suggests lack of Ints and higher opponent passer rating reflect mostly on lack of QB pressure, but in doing so ignores some problems on the backend
5. Does vaguely suggest that Amos and Savage should help
6. Lets an anonymous scout get away with inisisting that if the Packers defense isn't best in the Division, they they expect open internal revolt about why they didn't spend money on a playmaker for Rodgers
7. Makes a good summary that Dr. Zaius and Gary will see time pass rushing from the tackle spots in nickel and dime
8. Makes Joe's point that this defense has not relied on double digit sack production for QB pressures. Only Kruger and Mario Williams got past that number in this defense