Here is the blockbuster 'Can Of Worms ' Story on Green Bay Packer dysfunction.

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Media assholes spew the shit and imbeciles in here lap it up - sheeeeesh.

THEN GO THE FUCK SOMEWHERE ELSE

not a single person here will miss your bullshit

[mraynrand]

You should believe everything Jennings says.

Actually, only believe the stuff that confirms your bias.

Carry on.

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You should believe everything Jennings says.

Actually, only believe the stuff that confirms your bias.

Carry on.

or completely ignore things that don't hold up your bias

[woodbuck27]

Media assholes spew the shit and imbeciles in here lap it up - sheeeeesh.

Some of us have seen this crap for at least the post Super Bowl win mini era. Others here have been in denial...it's OK if you choose the denial side. This is a Forum and thus we debate stuff.

There is no need though to insult one another. We are all Packer fans right?!

[mraynrand]

or completely ignore things that don't hold up your bias

You're barking up the wrong tree. I advise caution regarding how much of this you take at face value. Some rings true, some seems like BS. And the sources are older, limited, have axes to grind, and/or are anonymous, which is a recipe for bias and slander.

[run pMc]

Well the Internet makes it easier than ever to air dirty laundry, and that seems to be the zeitgeist. Blame the media, blame the sources, blame the network routers, blame the readers...whatever. It's out there, and there are Vikings/Bears fans dancing with schadenfreude.
It's an interesting read from the standpoint that it confirms a lot of the things seen from the outside by us 'Rats. It's alarming in how bad some things actually were...TT is such bad health and falling asleep is beyond disturbing. He shouldn't be working, let alone being a GM. the whole M3-Rodgers dynamic had gone well beyond the point of being toxic and dysfunctional, so I'm glad a change was made. I wasn't overly optimistic about LaFluer before and that hasn't changed after this piece.

As for Finley, Jennings, Grant and those who went on record...meh. It's good to get perspectives I guess. I'm guessing Jennings was seen as one of Favre's guys first so Rodgers probably didn't warm to him, and Finley is Finley. He's outspoken and opinionated, and he's not always right. We knew that already.

The story doesn't cast anyone in a good light really, and feels a little sensational for my tastes. Hotstove league, and all that.

Isn't Dumbface Murphy supposed to keep people in line?

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Well the Internet makes it easier than ever to air dirty laundry, and that seems to be the zeitgeist. Blame the media, blame the sources, blame the network routers, blame the readers...whatever. It's out there, and there are Vikings/Bears fans dancing with schadenfreude.
It's an interesting read from the standpoint that it confirms a lot of the things seen from the outside by us 'Rats. It's alarming in how bad some things actually were...TT is such bad health and falling asleep is beyond disturbing. He shouldn't be working, let alone being a GM. the whole M3-Rodgers dynamic had gone well beyond the point of being toxic and dysfunctional, so I'm glad a change was made. I wasn't overly optimistic about LaFluer before and that hasn't changed after this piece.

As for Finley, Jennings, Grant and those who went on record...meh. It's good to get perspectives I guess. I'm guessing Jennings was seen as one of Favre's guys first so Rodgers probably didn't warm to him, and Finley is Finley. He's outspoken and opinionated, and he's not always right. We knew that already.

The story doesn't cast anyone in a good light really, and feels a little sensational for my tastes. Hotstove league, and all that.

Isn't Dumbface Murphy supposed to keep people in line?

the article, if true, really makes murphy look bad. all that shit was happening under his watch

gotta imagine his seat just got very warm

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You're barking up the wrong tree. I advise caution regarding how much of this you take at face value. Some rings true, some seems like BS. And the sources are older, limited, have axes to grind, and/or are anonymous, which is a recipe for bias and slander.

and because these are players who no longer play for the packers, you automatically think they have some vendetta, and are the bad guys

[mraynrand]

and because these are players who no longer play for the packers, you automatically think they have some vendetta, and are the bad guys

Maybe. Not necessarily. But I'd advise caution. Jennings has a history

My point is that what would be far more convincing is if a guy like Bacteria sat down and gave a measured view of the problems on the team, without being nasty. "Sure, Rodgers audibled off some Stubby calls. I guess that's what happens when a QB spends this many years in a system. You see things on the field that you think the Coach doesn't" or "Stubby was getting more distant in the past two years. He seemed more likely to be in the office than on the field tweaking plays. He seemed more defensive about his game plan, etc. etc. And he knows like everyone in football that if it comes to a power struggle between a HOF QB with the biggest contract in football and a coach, the QB is usually going to come out on top). Rodgers knows this too, so he has more freedom. That affects team dynamics."

Anyway, there's some stuff in there that rings true. I just don't buy all of it. But I want to know more about the masseuses.

[woodbuck27]

wtf?

I do not know if I'm correct but it sure appears to me that Ted Thompson has been suffering and suffers Dementia.

I hope I'm wrong.

He had a ten year playing career as a LBer and on ST'S with the Houston Oilers.

[texaspackerbacker]

The enemy here - as in everything else - is the God damned media trying to stir up trouble. As Woodbuck said, we are all Packer fans in here. The same cannot be said for the media assholes writing a bunch of worthless crap.

[woodbuck27]

the article, if true, really makes murphy look bad. all that shit was happening under his watch

gotta imagine his seat just got very warm

Having MM reporting directly to him last season or out of the loop was in my n observation Nd analysis a near indictment of Mike McCarthy. MM was done in Green Bay.

Mark Murphy should have simply sent him packing after the 2017 Season. The way Mike McCarthy was acting after the 2017 season it sure looked obvious he was in panic mode. Why hang onto that for another year?

[woodbuck27]

The enemy here - as in everything else - is the God damned media trying to stir up trouble. As Woodbuck said, we are all Packer fans in here. The same cannot be said for the media assholes writing a bunch of worthless crap.

If the author isn't creditable and this article not accurate then there will be Law Suits, or I would imagine so.

[texaspackerbacker]

Who gives a shit about credible. It's irrelevant crap - or should be - for Packer fans.

[Anti-Polar Bear]

God love ya, Woodbuck.

Take it to FYI.

If Woody's funny comment about his "android Samsung iPad" was posted in FYI, it would go something like this:

Tex: Fuck Samsung. Anything that comes out of China is shit.

Partial: Yo Tex, want something awesome and totally American? Get an Apple.

31: Yo Partial, you realize that 99.9% of the shit Apple makes come out of China, right?

Wist: Apple and Samsung are colluding, and therefore conspiring, to monopolize the smart phone/tablet market.

Rand: If Ayn Rand were alive today, she'd get a sex change.

Tank Elf Duke: Wanna know what's an abomination? Cap---

Madtown: Shut the fuck up, Tank.