Maybe, but I tend to think the O Line just ain't that important anyway. Rodgers has thrived for many years with mediocre O Line play although I suppose the running game might not have been as good without Jenkins.
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2015 and 2016 we had poor lines. Other than that every year it is at least top 10 and often top 5. Every mvp year is top 5.Originally posted by texaspackerbacker View PostMaybe, but I tend to think the O Line just ain't that important anyway. Rodgers has thrived for many years with mediocre O Line play although I suppose the running game might not have been as good without Jenkins.
Jenkins is way more important than you are giving him credit for.All tyrannies rule through fraud and force, but once the fraud is exposed they must rely exclusively on force.
George Orwell
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Thanks for bringing that up. Games missed by rodgers in 15 and 16 = 0Originally posted by texaspackerbacker View Post"top 10 and often top 5" because Rodgers made them that. Crap in '15 and '16 with Rodgers missing a lot of games.
2013 was 9 and 2017 was 7. Both great line years. I never thought about injuries originally but it strengthens my point.
Speaking of which 2015 was a fairly injured year for the line with only sitton making all 16 games. 2016 saw Lang replace him and Lindsey come in part way through the season with both having a learning curve. Better line gives rodgers more time and in the shitty McCarthy off he needed it.All tyrannies rule through fraud and force, but once the fraud is exposed they must rely exclusively on force.
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To paraphrase Allen Iverson: A fucking center? Are you fucking kidding me?!?! A fucking center! We’re talking a fucking center! Not a Orlando Pace, a Tony Boselli, or even an Iranian Stallion (a Bak). A fucking center!Originally posted by Upnorth View PostNo Jenkins and we dont make nfccg with bakh down.
Replace Jenkins with Runyan or Tonyan or even Onion, and odds are, Pack would still be good enough to make it to Conference Championships Sunday. Remember, the Majestic Polar Bear once implied that guards are as replaceable as burger flippers with his incompetent decision to replace Wahle and Rivera with Klemm and Whitticker.
The Packers simply lacked the WMDs to outnuke the GOAT in the clutch. Shoulda drafted Metcalf, Jacobs, et al.
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If the oline isn't that important why are not only more but higher draft picks dedicated to oline?Originally posted by Anti-Polar Bear View PostTo paraphrase Allen Iverson: A fucking center? Are you fucking kidding me?!?! A fucking center! We’re talking a fucking center! Not a Orlando Pace, a Tony Boselli, or even an Iranian Stallion (a Bak). A fucking center!
Replace Jenkins with Runyan or Tonyan or even Onion, and odds are, Pack would still be good enough to make it to Conference Championships Sunday. Remember, the Majestic Polar Bear once implied that guards are as replaceable as burger flippers with his incompetent decision to replace Wahle and Rivera with Klemm and Whitticker.
The Packers simply lacked the WMDs to outnuke the GOAT in the clutch. Shoulda drafted Metcalf, Jacobs, et al.
Your wmds are duds if the trigger is in the dirt staring at the sky.All tyrannies rule through fraud and force, but once the fraud is exposed they must rely exclusively on force.
George Orwell
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Name one HOF, or HOF caliber, OL-man the Packers drafted in the 1st round since they took Ante Josip Mandarich over Neon Deion Sanders. All the Packers ever drafted were a bunch of Mandariches and Sharrodses.Originally posted by Upnorth View PostIf the oline isn't that important why are not only more but higher draft picks dedicated to oline?
Your wmds are duds if the trigger is in the dirt staring at the sky.
Thompson, by chance, pulled the Iranian Stallion’s name out of a hat in round 4. Wolf did the same, but in the 7th, with Tauscher.
Point being, teams can get by by drafting fat guys in day 3. Wasting premium picks on fat guys, be it on offense or defense, almost always turn out to be, well, wasteful.
In the 1st, give me a hotshot QB, a shutdown corner, a prima donna WR...
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Wolf drafted a lot of OL in the first two rounds: Chad Clifton, Aaron Taylor, Mike Wahle, Ross Verba, John Michels. TT spent a few picks there as well (Sherrod, Spriggs, Bulaga).
You can find fat guys on day 3 to play C/G, but I think at OT you need to spend the draft capital. Spending a Day 2 pick on a OL player isn't the worse thing either.
The game is still largely won in the trenches -- OL to protect the QB, DL to rush the passer. If you think OL is unimportant, Joe Burrow and a slew of other QBs would like a word.
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No doubt.Originally posted by run pMc View PostWolf drafted a lot of OL in the first two rounds: Chad Clifton, Aaron Taylor, Mike Wahle, Ross Verba, John Michels. TT spent a few picks there as well (Sherrod, Spriggs, Bulaga).
You can find fat guys on day 3 to play C/G, but I think at OT you need to spend the draft capital. Spending a Day 2 pick on a OL player isn't the worse thing either.
The game is still largely won in the trenches -- OL to protect the QB, DL to rush the passer. If you think OL is unimportant, Joe Burrow and a slew of other QBs would like a word.
Some historically famous Coach once opined "you block better, you tackle better, you win more."
That guy has a Trophy named after him if I'm not mistaking.
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When did Brandon Bostick go into coaching?Originally posted by QBME View PostNo doubt.
Some historically famous Coach once opined "you block better, you tackle better, you win more."
That guy has a Trophy named after him if I'm not mistaking.
I can't run no more
With that lawless crowd
While the killers in high places
Say their prayers out loud
But they've summoned, they've summoned up
A thundercloud
They're going to hear from me - Leonard Cohen
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In my life I gave seen a lot of people say what they have done then watched who did the important work. Not a high level of correlation between the two. Arod can make the wr look better, but only if the oline allows him to.Originally posted by Anti-Polar Bear View PostName one HOF, or HOF caliber, OL-man the Packers drafted in the 1st round since they took Ante Josip Mandarich over Neon Deion Sanders. All the Packers ever drafted were a bunch of Mandariches and Sharrodses.
Thompson, by chance, pulled the Iranian Stallion’s name out of a hat in round 4. Wolf did the same, but in the 7th, with Tauscher.
Point being, teams can get by by drafting fat guys in day 3. Wasting premium picks on fat guys, be it on offense or defense, almost always turn out to be, well, wasteful.
In the 1st, give me a hotshot QB, a shutdown corner, a prima donna WR...
Perhaps with you being a knee injury away from being a pro bowl CB you are to focused on wrAll tyrannies rule through fraud and force, but once the fraud is exposed they must rely exclusively on force.
George Orwell
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I ain’t saying Yokozunas aren’t important. I’m saying, the Kung Fu between a 1st round Yokozuna ain’t that Wu-Tang from that of a 6th rounder. In other words, Jenkins ain’t that different from, say, Dick Dietrich, the Wisconsin guard that went to Miami in the 3rd.Originally posted by run pMc View PostWolf drafted a lot of OL in the first two rounds: Chad Clifton, Aaron Taylor, Mike Wahle, Ross Verba, John Michels. TT spent a few picks there as well (Sherrod, Spriggs, Bulaga).
You can find fat guys on day 3 to play C/G, but I think at OT you need to spend the draft capital. Spending a Day 2 pick on a OL player isn't the worse thing either.
The game is still largely won in the trenches -- OL to protect the QB, DL to rush the passer. If you think OL is unimportant, Joe Burrow and a slew of other QBs would like a word.
Gotta use premium picks on skill players where the Kung Fu between players are more Wu-Tang. Diamonds in the rough do exist, but more often than not, you’ll find a Gary Jennings in the 4th moreso than a DK Metcalf. Metcalf fell to the German Shepherd not once, not twice, but 3 fucking times!
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