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  • #16
    Maybe, but I tend to think the O Line just ain't that important anyway. Rodgers has thrived for many years with mediocre O Line play although I suppose the running game might not have been as good without Jenkins.
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    • #17
      Originally posted by texaspackerbacker View Post
      Maybe, but I tend to think the O Line just ain't that important anyway. Rodgers has thrived for many years with mediocre O Line play although I suppose the running game might not have been as good without Jenkins.
      2015 and 2016 we had poor lines. Other than that every year it is at least top 10 and often top 5. Every mvp year is top 5.
      Jenkins is way more important than you are giving him credit for.
      All tyrannies rule through fraud and force, but once the fraud is exposed they must rely exclusively on force.

      George Orwell

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      • #18
        "top 10 and often top 5" because Rodgers made them that. Crap in '15 and '16 with Rodgers missing a lot of games.
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        • #19
          Originally posted by texaspackerbacker View Post
          "top 10 and often top 5" because Rodgers made them that. Crap in '15 and '16 with Rodgers missing a lot of games.
          Thanks for bringing that up. Games missed by rodgers in 15 and 16 = 0
          2013 was 9 and 2017 was 7. Both great line years. I never thought about injuries originally but it strengthens my point.
          Speaking of which 2015 was a fairly injured year for the line with only sitton making all 16 games. 2016 saw Lang replace him and Lindsey come in part way through the season with both having a learning curve. Better line gives rodgers more time and in the shitty McCarthy off he needed it.
          All tyrannies rule through fraud and force, but once the fraud is exposed they must rely exclusively on force.

          George Orwell

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          • #20
            Originally posted by Upnorth View Post
            No Jenkins and we dont make nfccg with bakh down.
            To paraphrase Allen Iverson: A fucking center? Are you fucking kidding me?!?! A fucking center! We’re talking a fucking center! Not a Orlando Pace, a Tony Boselli, or even an Iranian Stallion (a Bak). A fucking center!

            Replace Jenkins with Runyan or Tonyan or even Onion, and odds are, Pack would still be good enough to make it to Conference Championships Sunday. Remember, the Majestic Polar Bear once implied that guards are as replaceable as burger flippers with his incompetent decision to replace Wahle and Rivera with Klemm and Whitticker.

            The Packers simply lacked the WMDs to outnuke the GOAT in the clutch. Shoulda drafted Metcalf, Jacobs, et al.

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            • #21
              Originally posted by Anti-Polar Bear View Post
              To paraphrase Allen Iverson: A fucking center? Are you fucking kidding me?!?! A fucking center! We’re talking a fucking center! Not a Orlando Pace, a Tony Boselli, or even an Iranian Stallion (a Bak). A fucking center!

              Replace Jenkins with Runyan or Tonyan or even Onion, and odds are, Pack would still be good enough to make it to Conference Championships Sunday. Remember, the Majestic Polar Bear once implied that guards are as replaceable as burger flippers with his incompetent decision to replace Wahle and Rivera with Klemm and Whitticker.

              The Packers simply lacked the WMDs to outnuke the GOAT in the clutch. Shoulda drafted Metcalf, Jacobs, et al.
              If the oline isn't that important why are not only more but higher draft picks dedicated to oline?
              Your wmds are duds if the trigger is in the dirt staring at the sky.
              All tyrannies rule through fraud and force, but once the fraud is exposed they must rely exclusively on force.

              George Orwell

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              • #22
                Originally posted by Upnorth View Post
                If the oline isn't that important why are not only more but higher draft picks dedicated to oline?
                Your wmds are duds if the trigger is in the dirt staring at the sky.
                Name one HOF, or HOF caliber, OL-man the Packers drafted in the 1st round since they took Ante Josip Mandarich over Neon Deion Sanders. All the Packers ever drafted were a bunch of Mandariches and Sharrodses.

                Thompson, by chance, pulled the Iranian Stallion’s name out of a hat in round 4. Wolf did the same, but in the 7th, with Tauscher.

                Point being, teams can get by by drafting fat guys in day 3. Wasting premium picks on fat guys, be it on offense or defense, almost always turn out to be, well, wasteful.

                In the 1st, give me a hotshot QB, a shutdown corner, a prima donna WR...

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                • #23
                  Originally posted by Anti-Polar Bear View Post


                  In the 1st, give me a hotshot QB, a shutdown corner, a prima donna WR...
                  You got your wish last year.

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                  • #24
                    Wolf drafted a lot of OL in the first two rounds: Chad Clifton, Aaron Taylor, Mike Wahle, Ross Verba, John Michels. TT spent a few picks there as well (Sherrod, Spriggs, Bulaga).
                    You can find fat guys on day 3 to play C/G, but I think at OT you need to spend the draft capital. Spending a Day 2 pick on a OL player isn't the worse thing either.

                    The game is still largely won in the trenches -- OL to protect the QB, DL to rush the passer. If you think OL is unimportant, Joe Burrow and a slew of other QBs would like a word.

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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by run pMc View Post
                      Wolf drafted a lot of OL in the first two rounds: Chad Clifton, Aaron Taylor, Mike Wahle, Ross Verba, John Michels. TT spent a few picks there as well (Sherrod, Spriggs, Bulaga).
                      You can find fat guys on day 3 to play C/G, but I think at OT you need to spend the draft capital. Spending a Day 2 pick on a OL player isn't the worse thing either.

                      The game is still largely won in the trenches -- OL to protect the QB, DL to rush the passer. If you think OL is unimportant, Joe Burrow and a slew of other QBs would like a word.
                      No doubt.

                      Some historically famous Coach once opined "you block better, you tackle better, you win more."

                      That guy has a Trophy named after him if I'm not mistaking.

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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by QBME View Post
                        No doubt.

                        Some historically famous Coach once opined "you block better, you tackle better, you win more."

                        That guy has a Trophy named after him if I'm not mistaking.
                        When did Brandon Bostick go into coaching?

                        I can't run no more
                        With that lawless crowd
                        While the killers in high places
                        Say their prayers out loud
                        But they've summoned, they've summoned up
                        A thundercloud
                        They're going to hear from me - Leonard Cohen

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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by Anti-Polar Bear View Post
                          Name one HOF, or HOF caliber, OL-man the Packers drafted in the 1st round since they took Ante Josip Mandarich over Neon Deion Sanders. All the Packers ever drafted were a bunch of Mandariches and Sharrodses.

                          Thompson, by chance, pulled the Iranian Stallion’s name out of a hat in round 4. Wolf did the same, but in the 7th, with Tauscher.

                          Point being, teams can get by by drafting fat guys in day 3. Wasting premium picks on fat guys, be it on offense or defense, almost always turn out to be, well, wasteful.

                          In the 1st, give me a hotshot QB, a shutdown corner, a prima donna WR...
                          In my life I gave seen a lot of people say what they have done then watched who did the important work. Not a high level of correlation between the two. Arod can make the wr look better, but only if the oline allows him to.
                          Perhaps with you being a knee injury away from being a pro bowl CB you are to focused on wr
                          All tyrannies rule through fraud and force, but once the fraud is exposed they must rely exclusively on force.

                          George Orwell

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                          • #28
                            No no no. Rodgers' mobility and accuracy allows him to thrive with mediocrity in the O Line and at the same time, make the O Line seem better - to a lot of people anyway.
                            What could be more GOOD and NORMAL and AMERICAN than Packer Football?

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                            • #29
                              Originally posted by run pMc View Post
                              Wolf drafted a lot of OL in the first two rounds: Chad Clifton, Aaron Taylor, Mike Wahle, Ross Verba, John Michels. TT spent a few picks there as well (Sherrod, Spriggs, Bulaga).
                              You can find fat guys on day 3 to play C/G, but I think at OT you need to spend the draft capital. Spending a Day 2 pick on a OL player isn't the worse thing either.

                              The game is still largely won in the trenches -- OL to protect the QB, DL to rush the passer. If you think OL is unimportant, Joe Burrow and a slew of other QBs would like a word.
                              I ain’t saying Yokozunas aren’t important. I’m saying, the Kung Fu between a 1st round Yokozuna ain’t that Wu-Tang from that of a 6th rounder. In other words, Jenkins ain’t that different from, say, Dick Dietrich, the Wisconsin guard that went to Miami in the 3rd.

                              Gotta use premium picks on skill players where the Kung Fu between players are more Wu-Tang. Diamonds in the rough do exist, but more often than not, you’ll find a Gary Jennings in the 4th moreso than a DK Metcalf. Metcalf fell to the German Shepherd not once, not twice, but 3 fucking times!

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                              • #30
                                Originally posted by texaspackerbacker View Post
                                No no no. Rodgers' mobility and accuracy allows him to thrive with mediocrity in the O Line and at the same time, make the O Line seem better - to a lot of people anyway.
                                Word.

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