First Round Pick 2019, Rashan Gary

[pbmax]

I was really surprised how some player completely fell in this draft. Look no further than DK Metcalf. The guys was the number 1 receiver on every big board from the pundits. He went towards the end of the second round. That was a huge free fall. Same can be said about Love, he was a top 5 corner pre-draft and he fell to the fourth round. Greedy Williams top 3 corner on every board dropped to the second round. Crazy stuff in this draft.

I think this is more the public draftniks being wrong that any surprise on the part of the teams themselves.

[run pMc]

Saw some jokes making the rounds how Keke's agility scores are on par/better than Metcalf's. Take that for what it's worth.
JSO kept saying that it wasn't a good draft for WR's, I thought it was deep but not great at the top so maybe that's what they meant.

Anyway, I have to think that interviews, background checks, and medicals play into a lot of where they are drafted too. Fans aren't privy to a lot of that, unless it's a J.Polite style meltdown or a grainy video on the internet. I was surprised that some players were available on Day 3, but some players will inevitably rise and fall.

[run pMc]

FWIW, I'm slowly coming around to Gary, although I would have preferred other players with the pick.
More than anything, I'm curious to see how Pettine will use him. Seems like he'll be used all over like D.Capers would use J.Peppers, but Peppers at least had the production at UNC as well.

Not sure about this kid...but I'm hoping he pans out.

[wist43]

I'm in full mea culpa mode on Gary now...

Looked at quite a bit of his game film, play by play... I had dismissed him b/c of all the negative press, which seemed to be justified based on his lack of production.

After listening to Gute, and watching a lot more tape - I now consider Gary a bonafide dude.

I think we may have a player here guys!!!

I think his punch is outstanding. He controls the blocker on almost every snap. He disengages well, reads the play well, takes good angles...

What he needs to work on is his technique to win the edge more often, and develop a second under move coming off his bull rush. As of now, his pass rush is too one demensional.

If he can develop a couple more pass rushing moves, he'll be very, very tough for T's to handle.

I like that he'll be standing up... with the Smiths, our front will definitely be tough to handle.

Starting to get excited about the possibilities.

[HarveyWallbangers]

I was surprised that Wist didn't like Gary from the beginning. Seems like his kind of player, plays with power and fury.

[Joemailman]

I did the same thing Wist did. Heard all the negative press about him, but didn't watch any film until after he was drafted. Everybody agrees he has tons of talent, and nobody says he doesn't make an effort. He seems to do everything thing well but finish. A couple things I noticed about him: First, when he takes an inside rush, he gets double-teamed. That should be opening things up for teammates. Second, opposing teams don't run at him much. He seems to have opponent's respect.

[wist43]

I was surprised that Wist didn't like Gary from the beginning. Seems like his kind of player, plays with power and fury.

It was the lack of "production", i.e. sacks and TFL's, on top of the negative press, on top of an injury... it was easy to just dismiss him as an entitled type that didn't give full effort or play thru injury.

I watch a lot of PFF, and they were way down on him. They're usually pretty good, and their analysis usually holds up when a player gets in the league, but upon further review I think they missed the mark with Gary.

I listened to Gute's presser closely, and took those notes with me when I watched Gary's tape. I'm now fully onboard with the pick.

His DL coach at UM said he's the best player he's ever seen at the position. Pretty high praise.

[RashanGary]

He looks impressive when you turn the tape on. Like you said, wist, he jars mother fuckers back every time with that punch and he’s so damn fast. One of the best Edge run defenders I’ve ever watched.

I’m with wist though, his pass rush needs some work. He has the tools but he needs another go to move beside his bull rush. Preferably two go to moves. If he does that, he’s a great player. We might have a dude.

[George Cumby]

That vid Justin posted was excellent for those still on the fence.

[HarveyWallbangers]

That vid Justin posted was excellent for those still on the fence.

I actually posted it a page ago.

[Bretsky]

Well, lol... I was weeping on my pancakes at the time, so cut me some slack

It's like you were the leader of the revolution and you shot all your soldiers and jumped sides...............LOLOL

[George Cumby]

I actually posted it a page ago.

Lol.

Sorry Harv.

That video Harv posted before Justin posted was excellent.

[RashanGary]

Lol.

Sorry Harv.

That video Harv posted before Justin posted was excellent.

Yeah, good video! Oops

[run pMc]

Agree his run defense is better than his pass rush, and that he needs to learn a few pass rush moves/counters. I noticed -- as did others -- that teams often ran away from him and used quick passing game to neutralize the Gary/Winovich/Bush led front 7. Hard to rack up stats that way.
It's like he's the king of almost-got-him, and that scares me a little for a #12 pick.

Pettine and staff have a lump of clay to mold, it's on them do it now (and for Gary to buy in).

[mraynrand]

I'm in full mea culpa mode on Gary now...

Looked at quite a bit of his game film, play by play... I had dismissed him b/c of all the negative press, which seemed to be justified based on his lack of production.

After listening to Gute, and watching a lot more tape - I now consider Gary a bonafide dude.

"I...wah...accept...sniff, sniff.....your apology.....wah wah wah"