First Round Pick 2019, Rashan Gary

[George Cumby]

You just can’t watch a full game and not come away thinking Gary is one of the most consistent cruel bully’s to come out in a while. He embarrassed tackles. That’s why two runs per game go at him and 20 go the other way. He’s a bully. That’s the best one word description of Rashan Gary. Even with the shoulder he was a brute force bully. Nick Perry is a bad comparison. Mike Daniels with Micah Hyde speed is more like it.

/Weirdboners

[RashanGary]

/Weirdboners

It’s true. I’ve never seen someone so powerful at 277. Alone that’s rare. But I’ve also never seen someone so fast. His highlight reel is ok but his every play game tape looks about the same. Every play he’s throat stabbing the guy in front of him backwards. The consistency is what makes it so impressive.

[RashanGary]

I used to watch Vince wilfork and his highlight reel probably isn’t much to look at but every play he bullied the guy or guys in front of him and wrecked plays. That’s the Charm of Rashan Gary. He doesn’t catch you by surprise. He does it every play and teams just stop even bothering to run anywhere near him. You don’t see a lot of that.

[call_me_ishmael]

It’s true. I’ve never seen someone so powerful at 277. Alone that’s rare. But I’ve also never seen someone so fast. His highlight reel is ok but his every play game tape looks about the same. Every play he’s throat stabbing the guy in front of him backwards. The consistency is what makes it so impressive.

lol you are such a homer. Sure you've seen equivalent athletes. There's quite a few around the league.

[Smidgeon]

Partridge is at Michigan because Harbaugh wanted Rashan Gary so he did what big time (read "gaming the system") college coaches do: he hired the player's favorite high school coach to become a position coach, or assistant position coach, at the university.

So of course he's going to slobber all over Rashan Gary. But those of you who are now defending Gary sure sound like you're desperately hunting for reasons to think he was a good pick - after so many of us talking about how Gutekunst needed a difference-maker with that high of a pick. Now Gary sounds like the second coming of Nick Perry, who most Packerrats were disgruntled with - and he was picked late in the first round. Wist hated Thompson drafting a college defensive lineman who had to convert to OLB - and here we are with a college defensive lineman converting to OLB, and everyone's explaining why that's okay. And why it's okay he's a good run-stopper, and why it's okay he may not get many sacks.

Weird universe.

For the forum controversy involving this pick alone and how it's flipped the pessimists into the optimists, the optimists into the pessimists, and those with balanced perspectives to one extreme or the other, I'm not sure I've ever anticipated watching a first round pick play as much as I am this one. I'm very interested to see who's right. Can't wait for the games to start.

Reminds me, I miss Christl's daily training camp run downs. Nobody has come close to his insight since he retired.

[pbmax]

For the forum controversy involving this pick alone and how it's flipped the pessimists into the optimists, the optimists into the pessimists, and those with balanced perspectives to one extreme or the other, I'm not sure I've ever anticipated watching a first round pick play as much as I am this one. I'm very interested to see who's right. Can't wait for the games to start.

Reminds me, I miss Christl's daily training camp run downs. Nobody has come close to his insight since he retired.

From this contretemps, I have learned that I really want to read whatever Michigan football forum Fritz is posting to.

[mraynrand]

From this contretemps, I have learned that I really want to read whatever Michigan football forum Fritz is posting to.

It's probably like "Attack of the 'Red' Clones"

[RashanGary]

lol you are such a homer. Sure you've seen equivalent athletes. There's quite a few around the league.

There were equivalent athletes to Wilfork too. But nobody was so consistent at battering the dude in front of him. I’m saying Gary batters the guy in front of him consistently. That’s rare.

And how many of those guys were on roids? By all accounts, Gary just woke up bigger and faster and stronger than everyone. It’s all natural.

And he’s the heaviest player in the history of the NFL combine to ever break 4.6 . So if they’re out there, it’s never been measured.

[texaspackerbacker]

Maybe we can use him like the Fridge as an RB on the goal line (only half joking).

[call_me_ishmael]

There were equivalent athletes to Wilfork too. But nobody was so consistent at battering the dude in front of him. I’m saying Gary batters the guy in front of him consistently. That’s rare.

And how many of those guys were on roids? By all accounts, Gary just woke up bigger and faster and stronger than everyone. It’s all natural.

And he’s the heaviest player in the history of the NFL combine to ever break 4.6 . So if they’re out there, it’s never been measured.

Not saying it's a bad thing, you just make me laugh with your optimism. I am optimistic about Gary - but you're an entirely new level lol. I doubt he'll be Jadeveon Clowney or the end in Cleveland but a step or two down from that is a great draft pick for picking #12.

[Bretsky]

For the forum controversy involving this pick alone and how it's flipped the pessimists into the optimists, the optimists into the pessimists, and those with balanced perspectives to one extreme or the other, I'm not sure I've ever anticipated watching a first round pick play as much as I am this one. I'm very interested to see who's right. Can't wait for the games to start.

Reminds me, I miss Christl's daily training camp run downs. Nobody has come close to his insight since he retired.

I'm one of the many who didn't want Gary coming to GB before the draft but I'm one of the few who has resisted the temptation to be a flipper either because Green Bay picked him or I shot off views w/o really doing any diligence on the guy. I have the same concerns before the draft as I have now.

I'll also go on record sincerely hoping the flippers are all right and he gets double digit sacks and I see him at several Pro Bowls.

This probably deserves a poll

For a 12th pick in the draft, statistically, how exactly will we measure success for our new Edge ??

[Radagast]

I'm one of the many who didn't want Gary coming to GB before the draft but I'm one of the few who has resisted the temptation to be a flipper either because Green Bay picked him or I shot off views w/o really doing any diligence on the guy. I have the same concerns before the draft as I have now.

I'll also go on record sincerely hoping the flippers are all right and he gets double digit sacks and I see him at several Pro Bowls.

This probably deserves a poll

For a 12th pick in the draft, statistically, how exactly will we measure success for our new Edge ??

I too am not happy with GB picking Rashan Gary. For me a first round pick that high in the draft should not be a "project" that will require possibly years to coach up. Physical strength/speed are great, but the NFL is loaded with fast/strong second and third team players. If he does produce, then great.

I see Gary as a Nick Perry 2.0 and we all know how he worked out.

[RashanGary]

Position coach presser on Packers.com .... coach Mike Smith has him rated as the best EDGE in the draft. Couldn’t believe they got him. Has never seen a player so big and fast. Consistently affected the QB.

Same thing I saw. Gary is a bully. He’s gonna fuck people up.

Was shocked to hear people say he didn’t like football. Said his stats didn’t tell the story. Same shit anyone who watches the tape says.

[Iron Mike]

https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/video/packers-olb-coach-mike-smith-on-top-pick-rashan-gary/

[MadScientist]

I too am not happy with GB picking Rashan Gary. For me a first round pick that high in the draft should not be a "project" that will require possibly years to coach up. Physical strength/speed are great, but the NFL is loaded with fast/strong second and third team players. If he does produce, then great.

I see Gary as a Nick Perry 2.0 and we all know how he worked out.

I'm also underwhelmed with this pick. The shoulder injury is what puts me off of him. Those things just don't heal well, and instead of getting it fixed, he went for the combine numbers and will play with a harness for a year. His numbers are impressive, but Al Davis proved in his later years, drafting numbers doesn't lead to results. I watched several games worth of tape and he showed promise in his junior year, but after the injury looked like a jag. Plays were run to the other side, but the ones to his side didn't result in him making the play. His pass rush looked like a TE was able to stone him. I really hope I'm totally off base here, but I'n not jumping on the Gary bandwagon for a while yet.