First Round Pick 2019, Rashan Gary

[Bretsky]

When did the Big Ten start playing football? News to me.

Ouch

[RashanGary]

R-E-L-A-X It’s preseason. Practice means more than the game for starters and regular rotation players.

[wist43]

What does it cost him to hustle in pursuit??

That lazy jog we've seen 2 weeks in a row in preseason is exactly what he did in every game at Michigan.

A leopard doesn't change his spots... like I said, it is a very bad look.

Hopefully the light goes on, b/c the #12 pick is too valuable to waste on a lazy guy who thinks he can turn it off and on at will. Those types of guys always fail.

[pbmax]

What does it cost him to hustle in pursuit??

That lazy jog we've seen 2 weeks in a row in preseason is exactly what he did in every game at Michigan.

A leopard doesn't change his spots... like I said, it is a very bad look.

Hopefully the light goes on, b/c the #12 pick is too valuable to waste on a lazy guy who thinks he can turn it off and on at will. Those types of guys always fail.

No, no, no. You gotta redeem yourself for falling for the hype post-draft. You don't get to pile on yet. Suffer for a while Mr. Zig Zagger.

Fritz and Bretsky get to gloat, as it were, first.

[wist43]

No, no, no. You gotta redeem yourself for falling for the hype post-draft. You don't get to pile on yet. Suffer for a while Mr. Zig Zagger.

Fritz and Bretsky get to gloat, as it were, first.

Not zig-zagging... want Gary to be a player, and think he can be; but, and it's a huge but, if he's lazy and has an "entitled" attitude?? Can't coach over that, he'll fail.

White was my first choice, Burns my second.

[call_me_ishmael]

Just curious; how closely do you follow college football and more specifically the Big Ten

I don't watch football at all basically anymore Bretsky. No time. Impossible to watch a game with little kids running around.

I do read a lot though.

[call_me_ishmael]

Apparently Gary is new to the idea that not quitting on a play is a part of playing OLB in the NFL.

You know, people got so excited - Gary letting it be known he wants to be great, thst he asked Z Smith to hang out to watch tape, blah blah blah. All part of getting that image he wants people to see out there as the narrative. But there he is, an NFL rook, and he's clearly come to camp out of shape, and he appears to have quit on a couple of preseason plays. Now there's the path to greatness, that relentless pursuit to be the best.

I haven't seen anything about him being out of shape. Do you have a link?

[bobblehead]

Apparently Gary is new to the idea that not quitting on a play is a part of playing OLB in the NFL.

You know, people got so excited - Gary letting it be known he wants to be great, thst he asked Z Smith to hang out to watch tape, blah blah blah. All part of getting that image he wants people to see out there as the narrative. But there he is, an NFL rook, and he's clearly come to camp out of shape, and he appears to have quit on a couple of preseason plays. Now there's the path to greatness, that relentless pursuit to be the best.

I don't really want to be known as a Gary defender. To date he has lived up to his resume. Great athlete who doesn't produce.

However,

Came to camp out of shape? The man weighs 276 and had a body fat of 10%. That's obscene. And as far as quitting on a couple plays, show me any player over 250 in the NFL and I'll show you a few clips of him letting up when the play went away, or is out of reach. I do appreciate the high motor freaks, but they are the exception not the rule (I often said it was Clay's only real attribute).

[bobblehead]

Listened to Pettine today. They’re working Gary in the preseason as the full OLB role, something he hasn’t done much or so that’s a work in progress. As the season opens they plan to put Gary in positions that take advantages of his strengths more. In short, Gary is gonna be a part time fresh legged pass rush demon. I’ve been saying that for a while, that he’s just gonna be a pass rusher in his first year. Even Zadarius took time to round into a complete player. Everyone takes time. Gary is in a perfect position to make a huge pass rush impact tho. And I do expect it.

Now I'll go the other way. This is coach speak for:

We had high hopes, but he isn't picking up the position so we will have to scale down his responsibilities and use him situationally.

[Fritz]

I haven't seen anything about him being out of shape. Do you have a link?

I don't recall if it was a JSO article or a Packerrat who said he was huffing and puffing and out of gas in the first game, fairly early on.

[mraynrand]

I don't recall if it was a JSO article or a Packerrat who said he was huffing and puffing and out of gas in the first game, fairly early on.

I’m not sure it’s possible to distinguish between being gassed or dogging it. Regardless, it lends and air of casual unseriousness. I’ll be happy if it stays in the preseason.

[Guiness]

Someone called for a Clay-like 10 sacks out of him his rookie season - and after 2 preseason games in which he played a fair number of snaps his line is 0-0 0.0. Ouch

[RashanGary]

Not to be an asshole but I’m gonna be an asshole here. I’ve watched more practices than almost anyone here over the last 15 years. What happens in practice is more important than what happens in the preseason games for the roster locks like Gary or Davante Adams. Stat lines don’t mean shit in preseason. Gary destroying whoever was in front of him, Packer or Texan when the cameras weren’t on and other teams couldn’t watch. That’s what matters. Period.

And I can buy pettine saying Gary is not what he hoped for if I haven’t been already calling Gary’s role since day one. I knew he was a pass rush specialist in year one. I’ve been saying it for months. Nobody with football intelligence is surprised that Rashan Gary isn’t a polished OLB right now. Facts.

[RashanGary]

Now season 2. Gary should be spending his whole offseason working the fundamentals of his new position. I do expect him to be a great rookie based on dominance of OL through practice. But whether or not he works himself into a true dominant pro, he’s gonna have to
Show he’s committed to his craft. He couldn’t have a better guy in front of him in Z. Now he’s gonna have to do it NEXT YEAR. He’s not expected to be polished this year. Like i said, nobody with football wisdom expected it. Nobody. But of course they’re using preseason to develop those areas. That’s what preseason is for.

[RashanGary]

Speaking of someone who’s gonna blow expectations out of the water, MVS is a beast. I’ve watched it. Regular season will prove it.