First Round Pick 2019, Rashan Gary

[run pMc]

Okay, I will concede that he at least got to a stalemate on some of those plays. Of course, I want him to turn out great and I'd be happy to be wrong, but I'm still not optimistic. I suppose we'll have to wait and see how it goes next season before we can really say much.

This, however, will not stop me from bagging on the guy!

Still not a fan of the pick. As time goes by and we see other R1 picks perform I may really not like the pick, but I'm going to root for him while he's a Packer and -- for the moment -- am cautiously optimistic that he'll improve and be better next year if he stays healthy. (Can't recall if he will need shoulder surgery though.) I think with his body type they're banking on turning him into another Za'Darius which would be pretty great.

[Sparkey]

Still not a fan of the pick. As time goes by and we see other R1 picks perform I may really not like the pick, but I'm going to root for him while he's a Packer and -- for the moment -- am cautiously optimistic that he'll improve and be better next year if he stays healthy. (Can't recall if he will need shoulder surgery though.) I think with his body type they're banking on turning him into another Za'Darius which would be pretty great.

And who better to learn from than the two Smiths!

[Patler]

I think it is significant that they are looking for ways to get him on the field with Smiths I & Ii, instead of just using him to give them breathers now and then.

[call_me_ishmael]

I think it is significant that they are looking for ways to get him on the field with Smiths I & Ii, instead of just using him to give them breathers now and then.

I had the same thought as well. If the Hamburgler wasn't doing something to give them an advantage, he wouldn't be getting into the fray in new and interesting ways.

[Patler]

Gary finished with three total tackles to go with his sack, including a tackle for loss and another hit on the quarterback.

https://www.jsonline.com/story/sport...ls/2656721001/

Not a bad day for a guy who played only 18 of 84 plays on defense,

[Sparkey]

Not a bad day for a guy who played only 18 of 84 plays on defense,

I liked what I saw of Gary yesterday. He looked explosive on his first step when he was standing up. Considering that he played with his hand in the dirt in college, it is a significant sign of improvement. I also like his effort. The more exposure he has to seeing things as a stand up lb, the more comfortable he will be and the faster he will play.

I think the guy is going to be a difference maker sooner rather than later.

[pbmax]

I liked what I saw of Gary yesterday. He looked explosive on his first step when he was standing up. Considering that he played with his hand in the dirt in college, it is a significant sign of improvement. I also like his effort. The more exposure he has to seeing things as a stand up lb, the more comfortable he will be and the faster he will play.

I think the guy is going to be a difference maker sooner rather than later.

My problem with Gary is that he does not seem functionally strong.

If you watch Preston Smith, he will just batter a tackle. Dr. Zaius relies more on quickness, but he was also neutralize them to get around them on a corner or hold them off and beat them inside. He can hold them off in other words, or flip a guard to the ground on a spin move.

Gary is just speed around a corner. His next move will be the counter inside. But if the tackle gets a hand on him, it seems he offers less resistance than the others.

He is just a rookie though.

[run pMc]

He doesn't really have much for pass rush moves, which is common for rookies. It usually takes them a year or two to come up with more than a speed or bull rush. Gary is raw, but occasionally he shows something, and he can play run D at least. Also, he's been showing up in the stat sheet more recently, despite getting around 15 snaps a game. As for being functionally strong, do you think that will always be the case, or something he can improve with a NFL S&C training?

[Zool]

My problem with Gary is that he does not seem functionally strong.

If you watch Preston Smith, he will just batter a tackle. Dr. Zaius relies more on quickness, but he was also neutralize them to get around them on a corner or hold them off and beat them inside. He can hold them off in other words, or flip a guard to the ground on a spin move.

Gary is just speed around a corner. His next move will be the counter inside. But if the tackle gets a hand on him, it seems he offers less resistance than the others.

He is just a rookie though.

He was moving that RT for the Bears yesterday. I don't know if that's some great accomplishment, but it was noticable. He was pushing the guy into Tubrisket quite a bit.

[pbmax]

He was moving that RT for the Bears yesterday. I don't know if that's some great accomplishment, but it was noticable. He was pushing the guy into Tubrisket quite a bit.

Now he just needs some leverage around the edge. He’s clearly strong enough versus the run that it should be possible.

[texaspackerbacker]

What we were running with Gary in there was basically a good ol' 4-3 defense with Gary at one DE. He seems well suited for that - more so than being a true linebacker.

I noticed also that it looked like they were using Fackrell as the 2nd ILB the few times we used two ILBs. I like that idea too.

[pbmax]

What we were running with Gary in there was basically a good ol' 4-3 defense with Gary at one DE. He seems well suited for that - more so than being a true linebacker.

I noticed also that it looked like they were using Fackrell as the 2nd ILB the few times we used two ILBs. I like that idea too.

Kyler Fackrell = Swiss Army Knife

[call_me_ishmael]

I still believe in the hamburgler or whatever nickname we came up for him. Too many athletic traits to be a complete bust when healthy.

[Bretsky]

I still believe in the hamburgler or whatever nickname we came up for him. Too many athletic traits to be a complete bust when healthy.

I think it was the Baconator or something like that

[call_me_ishmael]

I think it was the Baconator or something like that

That's right, lol, how could I forget the Baconator. I freaking love that nickname lol.

It sounds like he had a nice, promising game on Sunday. I didn't see it so I have no idea but the general vibe on Twitter is optimism.

My thought process is generally athletic freaks that bust out due to injury or lack of work ethic. So far we have no reason to believe either is an issue with Gary so I remain optimistic that he'll be a good player down the road.