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  • Originally posted by pbmax View Post
    Kyler Fackrell = Swiss Army Knife
    He might not be a stud, but he can play different spots on the field and was collapsing the pocket on a few plays.

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    • Gary looking better as time goes on. Still a ways to go.
      Formerly known as JustinHarrell.

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      • Originally posted by call_me_ishmael View Post
        That's right, lol, how could I forget the Baconator. I freaking love that nickname lol.

        It sounds like he had a nice, promising game on Sunday. I didn't see it so I have no idea but the general vibe on Twitter is optimism.

        My thought process is generally athletic freaks that bust out due to injury or lack of work ethic. So far we have no reason to believe either is an issue with Gary so I remain optimistic that he'll be a good player down the road.
        Decent reasoning
        Formerly known as JustinHarrell.

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        • GB's most recent 1st round draft pick Rashan Gary has proven himself to be everything that the Packers could have dreamed for. A dominating, overpowering pass rusher/sacker as well as a stone cold run stopper, Gary has impressed the entire league with his defensive skills. In addition, Gary's pass coverage and ball swatting talents have elevated him to one of the NFL's best defensive players.
          We should all be proud of GB's GM for using a valuable #1 draft pick to take Gary. He has turned out to be a player that other teams envy.

          NOT
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          If your not the lead dog , then the view never changes !

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          • Fritz! He's flashing again!

            Packers rookie Rashan Gary 'getting better at the right time'
            Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.

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            • Originally posted by Radagast View Post
              GB's most recent 1st round draft pick Rashan Gary has proven himself to be everything that the Packers could have dreamed for. A dominating, overpowering pass rusher/sacker as well as a stone cold run stopper, Gary has impressed the entire league with his defensive skills. In addition, Gary's pass coverage and ball swatting talents have elevated him to one of the NFL's best defensive players.
              We should all be proud of GB's GM for using a valuable #1 draft pick to take Gary. He has turned out to be a player that other teams envy.

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              So you like him?

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              • Originally posted by pbmax View Post
                My problem with Gary is that he does not seem functionally strong.

                If you watch Preston Smith, he will just batter a tackle. Dr. Zaius relies more on quickness, but he was also neutralize them to get around them on a corner or hold them off and beat them inside. He can hold them off in other words, or flip a guard to the ground on a spin move.

                Gary is just speed around a corner. His next move will be the counter inside. But if the tackle gets a hand on him, it seems he offers less resistance than the others.

                He is just a rookie though.
                He will look much stronger if he gets a good array of moves to get a 325 pound T off balance. When he gets them reaching he will look like the hulk. When/If that will be? No Clue?
                The only time success comes before work is in the dictionary -- Vince Lombardi

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                • Originally posted by pbmax View Post
                  Kyler Fackrell = Swiss Army Knife
                  I hope they manage to resign Fackrell, but I'm doubting it. If he leaves for a Hyde/Tretter/Hayward kinda deal I won't be happy. I know you have to make choices, but he has been valuable, and you just can't have enough of those guys around.
                  The only time success comes before work is in the dictionary -- Vince Lombardi

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                  • Gary Status: glass half full

                    Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.

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                    • Gary Status: Slightly more than half full

                      Ross Uglem @RossUglem
                      The #Packers made two excellent signings this offseason by scouting PRESSURES instead of SACKS.
                      Here's a little perspective on Rashan Gary:
                      '18:
                      Matthews 30 pressures on 376 rushes
                      Fackrell 23 on 243
                      Gilbert 21 on 241
                      Perry 13 on 168
                      '19:
                      Gary 15 pressures on 136 rushes



                      Ross Uglem @RossUglem
                      reorganized by rushes per pressure:

                      Matthews '18: 12.53
                      Fackrell '18: 10.57
                      Gilbert '18: 11.48
                      Perry '18: 12.92
                      Gary '19: 9.07
                      Gary is affecting the QB at a higher rate per rush than any Packers rusher from a season ago in his rookie year learning a new position.



                      Ross Uglem @RossUglem
                      also, pass-rushing is wild, man. People talk about hitting a baseball being hard. Za'Darius Smith is "failing" five out of every six rushes and he's an All-Pro. Smith's pressure-per-rush number is 5.91 and I'd be willing to bet it's in the top 5 league-wide.
                      Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.

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                      • Originally posted by pbmax View Post
                        Gary Status: Slightly more than half full

                        Ross Uglem @RossUglem
                        The #Packers made two excellent signings this offseason by scouting PRESSURES instead of SACKS.
                        Here's a little perspective on Rashan Gary:
                        '18:
                        Matthews 30 pressures on 376 rushes
                        Fackrell 23 on 243
                        Gilbert 21 on 241
                        Perry 13 on 168
                        '19:
                        Gary 15 pressures on 136 rushes



                        Ross Uglem @RossUglem
                        reorganized by rushes per pressure:

                        Matthews '18: 12.53
                        Fackrell '18: 10.57
                        Gilbert '18: 11.48
                        Perry '18: 12.92
                        Gary '19: 9.07
                        Gary is affecting the QB at a higher rate per rush than any Packers rusher from a season ago in his rookie year learning a new position.



                        Ross Uglem @RossUglem
                        also, pass-rushing is wild, man. People talk about hitting a baseball being hard. Za'Darius Smith is "failing" five out of every six rushes and he's an All-Pro. Smith's pressure-per-rush number is 5.91 and I'd be willing to bet it's in the top 5 league-wide.
                        i notice him making more and more plays. young guy. wont bust. still could really pan out
                        Formerly known as JustinHarrell.

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                        • According to PFF, from week 6 to week 10, Gary was the Packers' most improved defensive player as his overall grade jumped 27.3 points during that span.

                          Promising news, but he has a long way to go.

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                          • Originally posted by pbmax View Post
                            Ross Uglem @RossUglem
                            reorganized by rushes per pressure:

                            Matthews '18: 12.53
                            Fackrell '18: 10.57
                            Gilbert '18: 11.48
                            Perry '18: 12.92
                            Gary '19: 9.07
                            Gary is affecting the QB at a higher rate per rush than any Packers rusher from a season ago in his rookie year learning a new position.
                            That's not an insignificant analysis. I'm sure Gary benefits from the fact that teams focus their attention on Smiths I & II, while Matthews and Perry attracted teams attention last year, but the raw numbers are still interesting. Fackrell had a big year last year for sacks in 2018, and Gary is exceeding his rate of pressures. Interesting.

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                            • I wonder if Gary’s numbers would remain high at a higher usage rate. Hopefully he progresses enough next year to force playing time.
                              Originally posted by 3irty1
                              This is museum quality stupidity.

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                              • Originally posted by Patler View Post
                                That's not an insignificant analysis. I'm sure Gary benefits from the fact that teams focus their attention on Smiths I & II, while Matthews and Perry attracted teams attention last year, but the raw numbers are still interesting. Fackrell had a big year last year for sacks in 2018, and Gary is exceeding his rate of pressures. Interesting.
                                One thing I noticed rewatching the MIN game was that there were a few times Gary was the first defensive player off the snap. When he's locked in he is explosive and fast. On a 3rd and long play MIN used that to ride him out of a gap for a draw play that came short of the 1st. Teams are giving him at least some respect - he got a few double teams and held up ok.

                                I think the Baconator nickname fits for now -- he's like the king of almost making a play, and has helped to pressure the QB or force him into another pass rusher.

                                I don't think his numbers would hold up at that rate if his snaps went up. If in years 1 & 2 he basically beats/matches Perry's last 2 years of production I would say that's a decent pick...they paid Perry big money. I'd like to see him make a year 2 jump; that's on Gary and the coaches. Kid's got lots of potential.

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