First Round Pick 2019, Rashan Gary

[call_me_ishmael]

That is charitable. Do you really draft a guy #12 overall because he can eat up blockers? Man, the Packers already have some undrafted guys who seem pretty capable of that, don't they? Couldn't you do better with the #12 overall pick than that? This pick is very . . . AJ Hawkish. And that's being charitable.

But his numbers on paper are nearly identical to Jadeveon Clowney's athleticism and their production their junior years was nearly identical. Jadeveon is getting a max contract. I haven't seen this dude play much, and I know you have, but I do have to wonder if there's not more to the story here.

Part of me thinks if this dude took an RBs head off on a blown up play everybody would be cheering this one.

[call_me_ishmael]

This is also key. Given all the talk around him, the thing that gives me the most optimism is that he has a lot of room to improve his already ridiculous athleticism. The big question will be, did you just draft Giannis, or Ben Simmons. One takes his job seriously, the other thinks he has nothing left to prove.

I'm sorry but this is absurd. Ben Simmons is 10x the player in year 2 that Giannis was. My question for this dude is positional fit and if he is really a 4-3 DE like Mike Neal. I could easily see them asking him to cut a bit of weight to be an OLB, or bulk up a hair and be JJ Watt at DE. Right now he's sort of in the middle.

[wist43]

Gary's 2019 stat line...

7 Games Played
16 tackles
2 TFL
1.5 sacks

[mraynrand]

My question for this dude is positional fit and if he is really a 4-3 DE like Mike Neal. I could easily see them asking him to cut a bit of weight to be an OLB, or bulk up a hair and be JJ Watt at DE. Right now he's sort of in the middle.

Gute was saying they would even move him inside. I think they believe he has the athleticism to rush from anywhere, but that he will be getting upfield/rushing the passer. It's hard for me to see him as anything close to a Neal type no matter where they line him up.

[mraynrand]

Gary's 2019 stat line...

7 Games Played
16 tackles
2 TFL
1.5 sacks

This seems like an incomplete view of the guy, statistically.

[Harlan Huckleby]

They're gonna coach-up Gary to greatness.

[pbmax]

There was some report that his "heart wall was actually thicker" than originally believed. I have no idea what these team people are looking at; almost wonder if the whole thing wasn't concocted by someone trying to get him to drop.

There was a late report about the combine medical leak being wrong and that teams were clearing him. Was that Gary's shoulder or Sweat's heart, anyone remember?

[Joemailman]

Gary's 2019 stat line...

7 Games Played
16 tackles
2 TFL
1.5 sacks

Not sure where those stats are from:

http://statsarchive.ath.umich.edu/VS....php?pkey=2032

[pbmax]

CFB Stats agrees with Joe.

                                                                                             
                                                        Tack              Def            Fumb
Year       School    Conf Class Pos  G Solo Ast Tot Loss  Sk Int Yds Avg TD PD   FR Yds TD FF
*2016    Michigan Big Ten    FR  DE 12   12  11  23  5.0 0.5   0       0  0  0           0  0
*2017    Michigan Big Ten    SO  DL 13   25  33  58 11.5 5.5   0       0  0  0           0  1
*2018    Michigan Big Ten    JR  DL  9   20  18  38  6.5 3.5   0       0  0  0           0  0
Career                        Michigan   57  62 119 23.0 9.5   0       0  0  0           0  1

Provided by CFB at Sports Reference: View Original Table
Generated 4/26/2019.

[hoosier]

From what I'm reading, Harv, it's not the heart thing that dropped Sweat, it was "character concerns." Personally, I think maybe this team could use a slightly psycho dude. But then again, maybe it's so bad the Packers didn't want to deal with possible outside repercussions. Not sure.

There is a very thin line (less than 2cm) between a guy who puts all his heart into it and a guy who is slightly psycho.

[mraynrand]

There was a late report about the combine medical leak being wrong and that teams were clearing him. Was that Gary's shoulder or Sweat's heart, anyone remember?

I think this was the heart. That the combine eval said his heart was 'thinner' however the hell they came up with that. If they did a bunch of scans, then their report should also point out that his cancer risk has gone up.

[mraynrand]

There is a very thin line (less than 2cm) between a guy who puts all his heart into it and a guy who is slightly psycho.

Remembrane who you're talking about.

[wist43]

Not sure where those stats are from:

http://statsarchive.ath.umich.edu/VS....php?pkey=2032

They're from the future... 2019

[mraynrand]

Not sure where those stats are from:

http://statsarchive.ath.umich.edu/VS....php?pkey=2032

They are the 2019 stats. For some reason I don't remember seeing Gary playing in 7 bowl games.

[mraynrand]

They're from the future... 2019

Why you're nothing but a fraud! You're not even a cripple!