The 2019 NFC NORTH Title?

[pbmax]

^ There are always special brands of stupid. Everywhere you go.

Speaking of which, I would LOVE to know what was supposed to happen. Because a snap to one guy doesn't seem to make sense.

[Cheesehead Craig]

^ There are always special brands of stupid. Everywhere you go.

Speaking of which, I would LOVE to know what was supposed to happen. Because a snap to one guy doesn't seem to make sense.

The play was never supposed to be run. It was all trying to get the defense to jump offsides. The player who was supposed to be the snapper was hurt that game and they had a backup come in who thought he was supposed to snap it regardless. Just a hysterically dumb play that defies logic in the belief that any team would jump offsides on this play.

[Joemailman]

This is probably much ado about nothing. LaFleur undoubtedly knows how to coach and is NOT gonna come in and screw things up. He damn well shouldn't. That is NOT what he was brought in for IMO. He was brought in to fine tune an offense that is (and should be) built around Aaron Rodgers and his magnificent ability to adjust things on the fly as needed. A little more creativity in pass patterns, training young receivers to get open on extended plays, etc.

I seriously doubt there is even any controversy among Packers players and coaches - this is purely trouble stirred up by media pukes and bought into by some worry wort fans.

News flash. LaFleur was not brought in to fine tune the offense. He was brought in to replace an offense that wasn't working anymore. The 2 offenses could hardly be more different. Spreading the receivers out and asking Rodgers to figure out who will be open (or buy time if nobody is open) will be replaced by bunch formations, misdirection and play action.

[ThunderDan]

The play was never supposed to be run. It was all trying to get the defense to jump offsides. The player who was supposed to be the snapper was hurt that game and they had a backup come in who thought he was supposed to snap it regardless. Just a hysterically dumb play that defies logic in the belief that any team would jump offsides on this play.

Exactly, it was supposed to be a punt on 4th down.

[pbmax]

News flash. LaFleur was not brought in to fine tune the offense. He was brought in to replace an offense that wasn't working anymore. The 2 offenses could hardly be more different. Spreading the receivers out and asking Rodgers to figure out who will be open (or buy time if nobody is open) will be replaced by bunch formations, misdirection and play action.

Don't forget motion.

[Joemailman]

Don't forget motion.

Yeah. That too.

[Radagast]

The 2019 NFC North Title, or could be a discussion about the division.

What do the Lions need to do to be competitive?

How dangerous will the Vikings offense be in 2019?

Can the Packers beat the Bears defense?

Will the Packers shut down the Bears offense?

Vikings vs Lions, who wins those games?

[Cheesehead Craig]

Don't forget motion.

[texaspackerbacker]

News flash. LaFleur was not brought in to fine tune the offense. He was brought in to replace an offense that wasn't working anymore. The 2 offenses could hardly be more different. Spreading the receivers out and asking Rodgers to figure out who will be open (or buy time if nobody is open) will be replaced by bunch formations, misdirection and play action.

Most of the runs before were misdirection - that works best in a pass first attack. I do like the idea of the bunch formation, though. That makes it harder to cover receivers who (obviously) do not stay bunched as they spread out and get open. Rodgers should flourish in this - extending plays as needed and all. We did a little of play action before too. More can't hurt, especially if opponents are expecting more run plays.

The more things change, the more they will stay the same. We will undoubtedly notice a few differences but, I suspect, not many.

[texaspackerbacker]

The 2019 NFC North Title, or could be a discussion about the division.

What do the Lions need to do to be competitive?

How dangerous will the Vikings offense be in 2019?

Can the Packers beat the Bears defense?

Will the Packers shut down the Bears offense?

Vikings vs Lions, who wins those games?

In order, 1. a whole new roster 2. Their D is more of a threat than their O, so not very. 3. Yes, they can beat ANY defense, and the Bears shouldn't be quite as good as last season. 4. Do the Bears even have an offense that requires anything special to shut it down? 5. Even the late season Vikings (after their traditional choke job) shouldn't lose to the Lions.

[Radagast]

In order, 1. a whole new roster 2. Their D is more of a threat than their O, so not very. 3. Yes, they can beat ANY defense, and the Bears shouldn't be quite as good as last season. 4. Do the Bears even have an offense that requires anything special to shut it down? 5. Even the late season Vikings (after their traditional choke job) shouldn't lose to the Lions.

Could you do that again without the horse blinders? Obviously your driving the Rah Rah Wagon. Is it truely how you feel or are you just trying to impress the less well informed sheep.

[texaspackerbacker]

hahahahaha I was just trying to be nice and get your thread back on topic. Maybe you should answer your own questions. What of my answers could you possibly disagree with?

[gbgary]

This is probably much ado about nothing. LaFleur undoubtedly knows how to coach and is NOT gonna come in and screw things up. He damn well shouldn't. That is NOT what he was brought in for IMO. He was brought in to fine tune an offense that is (and should be) built around Aaron Rodgers and his magnificent ability to adjust things on the fly as needed. A little more creativity in pass patterns, training young receivers to get open on extended plays, etc.

I seriously doubt there is even any controversy among Packers players and coaches - this is purely trouble stirred up by media pukes and bought into by some worry wort fans.

he wasn't brought in to fine tune anything. he was brought in to completely change it. as he points out in the article, in the new O, there's no reason to change the play and personnel groupings could actually prohibit it. break-downs and 2-min offense are the wild cards and they'll work that out, but as a whole there shouldn't be much opportunity for improvisation...which is a good thing. as i said, if goff can do it rodgers should be all-world at it. he just needs to be disciplined enough to do it.

[Radagast]

In order, 1. a whole new roster 2. Their D is more of a threat than their O, so not very. 3. Yes, they can beat ANY defense, and the Bears shouldn't be quite as good as last season. 4. Do the Bears even have an offense that requires anything special to shut it down? 5. Even the late season Vikings (after their traditional choke job) shouldn't lose to the Lions.

To begin with, it would do the Lions no good to replace/adjust their roster until they clean their executive house. From top to bottom, the Lions troubles start and end with their management. Einstein said it best, the definition of "insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting a different results".

Next, with their offense healthy again, the Vikings will be a competitive unit. Cousins just needs players beyond himself to take the field and he should have it this season.

I don't believe that GB will beat the Bears in week 1 or the Vikings in week 2. It will be a simple matter of the offense not working well enough yet to get it done. The defense will play better than last season and ensure that the losses will not be too great. That said, GB's offense will improve as the season progresses and they will emerge as the offensive power in the NFC North. They will turn the tables on the Bears/Vikings in the last few weeks of the season.

Be sure your wearing your Depends for the season opener with the Bears. They will put up the points to not only beat the Packers, but also exploit the weak areas of the Packer D. The Bears will put it on the Packers in week 1 in Chicago.

The Vikings, IMO, will split reg, season games with the Lions. The Vikings get the first win, but the Lions will win the rematch. Like is often said, when division rivals meet, sometimes you can through the records out the window. Their final reg season game will be just such a game.

[texaspackerbacker]

No disagreement about the Lions. The changing the whole roster thing was just hyperbole. They are messed up above and beyond the player level.

Cousins is exactly what the Vikings deserve in a QB - a picture of mediocrity getting paid huge money. Their whole offense is pretty mediocre.

Think whatever you want about the Packers actually losing the first two games of the LaFleur Era hahahahaha. I'd bet money it doesn't happen. Hell, I'd bet they win both of those games. The improvement in the Packer offense will be mainly in the form of the young receivers getting better, and just maybe Jimmy Graham returning to form. And of course, there should be drastic improvement in the Packers defense.

You really sound like a closet Bears fan hahahaha. Their offense is even more mediocre than the Vikings, and their D will not be quite as good as last year. Hot shot pass rushers (not named Julius Peppers) tend to age and fade a lot like RBs. I don't expect Mack to be quite as good this year. In addition, they lost two very good DBs - one of them to us.

The Lions might rise up and beat the Vikings, especially if the Vikings have started their downward spiral by that time and/or if the game doesn't mean much. Hell, they might even beat the Packers in Week 17 - if and only if the Packers have home field advantage sewed up and rest all their starters.