McCarthy/Thompson —-> Gute/Lafleur transition

[texaspackerbacker]

Glad you mostly agree. Graham of last year wasn't much of a threat, but if he can get back healthy, who knows. He certainly used to be a deep threat.

Somebody 6'4 with 4.3 speed who showed the ability to catch last year - MVS - is definitely a deep threat. Adams is getting to be a great all around receiver, deep threat included. St. Brown I think is also fast enough; Moore hasn't shown much yet, but he was drafted as a deep threat too. All of those guys have the ability to shed press coverage and go roaring away deep. Safeties aren't always gonna be able to get over for help with a QB who can throw it 40 or 50 yards on a line. I'd much rather see that than this stupid idea of getting rid of the ball quick on a slant or out route than maybe gets jumped for an interception. Some may downplay Rodgers' not throwing interceptions, but to me, that is the A number 1 quality that makes him the GOAT. I don't want to see that screwed up just to please some people's wish for him to get rid of the ball quicker.

[mraynrand]

Some may downplay Rodgers' not throwing interceptions, but to me, that is the A number 1 quality that makes him the GOAT. I don't want to see that screwed up just to please some people's wish for him to get rid of the ball quicker.

who wants to tell him?

[RashanGary]

There’s an article with graham talking about proving the negative talk wrong. He said he can still run and he’s gonna have a big year.

Graham does not talk about injuries, but I’ve listened closely to coaches and Graham and he had them. He’s got more than he showed last year and I’m betting on him. If there’s an over/under futures bet, I’m taking the over with Graham.

And I haven’t bet for a while cuz I want to be confident. I’m that confident in Graham based on what I’ve read between the lines.

[pbmax]

Other than I think Graham is not much of a deep threat, I generally agree with this analysis. However there is nothing wrong with scheming receivers open and taking an easy 5-12 yard completion, with a chance for YAC. Nothing is preventing LaFleur from keeping elements of the extended offense for when the guy who is schemed open isn't. Let Rodgers manage the game and then go for the jugular when the opportunity arises. Mix in running as needed, just as long as they aren't so fucking predictable about it.

Fully agree about scheming people open short, except it can't be the entirety of the pass game. You have to credibly threaten deeper levels to pull coverage back.

[pbmax]

There’s an article with graham talking about proving the negative talk wrong. He said he can still run and he’s gonna have a big year.

Graham does not talk about injuries, but I’ve listened closely to coaches and Graham and he had them. He’s got more than he showed last year and I’m betting on him. If there’s an over/under futures bet, I’m taking the over with Graham.

And I haven’t bet for a while cuz I want to be confident. I’m that confident in Graham based on what I’ve read between the lines.

I saw that but I have to say to my ears, it sounded like what he was supposed to say. I would have rather he swallowed the microphone in anger.

[Joemailman]

I have no doubt that Graham is committed to proving the doubters wrong.

I have considerable doubt that his knee will allow him to do that.

[run pMc]

Jimmy Graham will turn 33 during the season; I do not expect him to turn back the clock. I would hope another year with Rodgers helps improve their chemistry and that MLF/Hackett know how to use him better than M3 did. He didn't have a terrible year and I give him credit for playing thru a bad knee and broken thumb, but everyone knows he has to play better or he won't see year 3 of his contract.

As for Rodgers and the offense, look back to Game 1, post-knee injury. He played in rhythm, with some short/quick throws, and then got some big chunk plays (e.g., the 1st TD throw to Allison). That's how they need to do it IMO. A bigger emphasis on the running game isn't a bad thing, either...I have to go back and find the story where a player said some teams practiced as many runs in a day as GB did in a week. M3 skewed to pass heavily last year; Aaron Jones, Dexter and Jamaal W can give more balance and contribute to a productive offense IMO if schemed and executed properly.