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  • I don’t think we’re gonna see much traditional base this year. I like Bolton long term but he’s a rookie. I imagine we’ll run big nickel with Greene instead of traditional base. And then in regular nickel, Greene will come out and Tramon will be in the slot.

    I really hope King comes back soon. I really don’t want Tramon on the boundary and I don’t fully trust Brown or Hollman just yet.
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    • Alexander/king
      Amos/Savage
      Martinez/Greene


      I like that back end. All are smart guys who can be counted on and count on each other. Switch Greene out for Tramon and I still feel the same way with the lean being toward pass coverage.
      Last edited by RashanGary; 08-16-2019, 08:15 PM.
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      • Originally posted by JustinHarrell View Post
        I don’t think we’re gonna see much traditional base this year. I like Bolton long term but he’s a rookie. I imagine we’ll run big nickel with Greene instead of traditional base. And then in regular nickel, Greene will come out and Tramon will be in the slot.

        I really hope King comes back soon. I really don’t want Tramon on the boundary and I don’t fully trust Brown or Hollman just yet.
        I'd like to see our base be a 3-3 like I've been calling for forever.

        We actually have the personnel to run it effectively now - sans Gary. Really worried about him. He has not looked good at all. Don't think he can play standing up, and if that's the case he might be a wasted pick. Not to mention all the other negatives surrounding him.
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        • Originally posted by wist43 View Post
          I'd like to see our base be a 3-3 like I've been calling for forever.

          We actually have the personnel to run it effectively now - sans Gary. Really worried about him. He has not looked good at all. Don't think he can play standing up, and if that's the case he might be a wasted pick. Not to mention all the other negatives surrounding him.
          https://thedraftnetwork.com/player/rashan-gary

          This profile of Gary suggests that his best role might as an inside player, and they may have been right. That's not all bad, as Pettine puts a lot of emphasis on generating inside pass rush.

          Rashan Gary is a versatile defender with the needed abilities to be a disruptive force working from 3T. Gary has the ability to set the edge vs. the run and can be worked on the outside sparingly, although his pass rush skills are best utilized in scenarios that allow him to play with linear angles and with his hips aligned behind his pads to optimize his power and quickness.
          I can't run no more
          With that lawless crowd
          While the killers in high places
          Say their prayers out loud
          But they've summoned, they've summoned up
          A thundercloud
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          • Originally posted by wist43 View Post
            I'd like to see our base be a 3-3 like I've been calling for forever.

            We actually have the personnel to run it effectively now - sans Gary. Really worried about him. He has not looked good at all. Don't think he can play standing up, and if that's the case he might be a wasted pick. Not to mention all the other negatives surrounding him.
            well you did say he'd be out of the league within 3 years
            TERD Buckley over Troy Vincent, Robert Ferguson over Chris Chambers, Kevn King instead of TJ Watt, and now, RICH GANNON, over JIMMY JIMMY JIMMY LEONARD. Thank you FLOWER

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            • Originally posted by Joemailman View Post
              https://thedraftnetwork.com/player/rashan-gary

              This profile of Gary suggests that his best role might as an inside player, and they may have been right. That's not all bad, as Pettine puts a lot of emphasis on generating inside pass rush.

              This suggests UTTER FAILURE of our scouting department. If true, wouldn't you agree ? They did not draft him to play inside. Didn't one coach note best Edge in the draft ? If you listen to the post draft quotes, we drafted an EDGE

              NIck Perry was a talent who was a horrible fit. If this turns out to be Gary, we'll all be wishing we'd just have taken a high motor upside Edge like Brian Burns
              TERD Buckley over Troy Vincent, Robert Ferguson over Chris Chambers, Kevn King instead of TJ Watt, and now, RICH GANNON, over JIMMY JIMMY JIMMY LEONARD. Thank you FLOWER

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              • There was a lot of talk about using a hot shot Edge Rusher inside along with two on the edge. So far, the only place I've seen either Smith or Gary is outside. I have to think there is more to come that Pettine ain't putting on display in the preseason. hopefully a lot more.
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                • Originally posted by Bretsky View Post
                  This suggests UTTER FAILURE of our scouting department. If true, wouldn't you agree ? They did not draft him to play inside. Didn't one coach note best Edge in the draft ? If you listen to the post draft quotes, we drafted an EDGE

                  NIck Perry was a talent who was a horrible fit. If this turns out to be Gary, we'll all be wishing we'd just have taken a high motor upside Edge like Brian Burns
                  Oh I think they drafted him to play both inside and outside. Pettine loves that kind of versatility. It's one reason they parted ways with Mike Daniels, because guys like Gary and Z. Smith can also play inside. If they wanted a guy who was strictly an edge rusher, I don't think Gary would have been the pick.
                  I can't run no more
                  With that lawless crowd
                  While the killers in high places
                  Say their prayers out loud
                  But they've summoned, they've summoned up
                  A thundercloud
                  They're going to hear from me - Leonard Cohen

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                  • Originally posted by Joemailman View Post
                    Oh I think they drafted him to play both inside and outside. Pettine loves that kind of versatility. It's one reason they parted ways with Mike Daniels, because guys like Gary and Z. Smith can also play inside. If they wanted a guy who was strictly an edge rusher, I don't think Gary would have been the pick.
                    You suggested his best role might be on the inside

                    I just noted based on all comments that is not what GB sounded like they thought they were getting.

                    There were two elite ILB's in the draft last year; I don't think anybody would have drafted Gary thinking he's best suited as a ILB. In fact, his lack of hustle in running down plays at time, and at Michigan, really suggest he's not the type of relentless player you'd like to see chasing down players from the inside
                    TERD Buckley over Troy Vincent, Robert Ferguson over Chris Chambers, Kevn King instead of TJ Watt, and now, RICH GANNON, over JIMMY JIMMY JIMMY LEONARD. Thank you FLOWER

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                    • Everyone knows im a big Gary fan. The Packers aren’t coming out in the preseason with their best stuff. If Gary looks bad in the regular season I’ll disappointedly start eating my crow. And I do fully understand that he may be more of a situational pass rusher in his first year as an OLB. For now, I still see this as a R-E-L-A-X moment. When he’s going all out in practice, using his full arsenal, he’s been a beast. That means more than preseason games where most things are held back.
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                      • You don’t hear of any top pass rushers tearing up the preseason. That’s not how preseason works.
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                        • The NFL sack leaders are Daeahon Hall Brian Burns Reggie Gilbert Marquis Haynes and Duane Hendrix. I have a feeling the regular season might be a little different. It’s relax time. It really is.
                          Formerly known as JustinHarrell.

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                          • Preseason is the be all and end all of football.

                            It's so important the Bears rested all 22 starters in last night's game against the Giants.

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                            • Originally posted by Bretsky View Post
                              You suggested his best role might be on the inside

                              I just noted based on all comments that is not what GB sounded like they thought they were getting.

                              There were two elite ILB's in the draft last year; I don't think anybody would have drafted Gary thinking he's best suited as a ILB. In fact, his lack of hustle in running down plays at time, and at Michigan, really suggest he's not the type of relentless player you'd like to see chasing down players from the inside
                              Not ILB, interior lineman. To replace Daniels. I think that’s where you’ll see him get a lot of snaps. The Smiths will start and be backed up outside by Feckless, Gilbert, ???, and some Gary. Gary will be inside on obvious passing downs. Unless the light turns on for him - then he’ll get a lot of snaps.
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                              • Originally posted by JustinHarrell View Post
                                I don’t think we’re gonna see much traditional base this year. I like Bolton long term but he’s a rookie. I imagine we’ll run big nickel with Greene instead of traditional base. And then in regular nickel, Greene will come out and Tramon will be in the slot.

                                I really hope King comes back soon. I really don’t want Tramon on the boundary and I don’t fully trust Brown or Hollman just yet.
                                King's injured again? Man, dude is so fragile, Todd shoulda checked to see if King had balls prior to telling TJ Watt to take a hike.

                                And not sure what King did that aroused you, but the rare times I saw the guy in the rye, he was no shutdown corner. Just another deer-legged loser.

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