Official 2019 Training Camp Thread

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Drops like that are focus (laziness) issues, nothing to do with technique. All the reps aren't going to keep a guy from dropping the ball in that situation. Yanking him gets his attention and that causes him to feel embarrassed and you damn well know that the focus will be there next time.

OK, but that is a real individual issue. I don't think Moore is lazy, I think he has a real, physical issue with proper hand usage/placement if Lofton wasn't just blowing smoke. Sending him off the field for fewer reps doesn't help (just a hypothetical case).

Was Williams just half assing it? Perhaps or the coach just wanted to light a fire under what was reported to be a bad practice for the offense. I just hope its not a last and only resort to bad technique. Maybe Justin can comment on it from being at pracitce.

[Cheesehead Craig]

OK, but that is a real individual issue. I don't think Moore is lazy, I think he has a real, physical issue with proper hand usage/placement if Lofton wasn't just blowing smoke. Sending him off the field for fewer reps doesn't help (just a hypothetical case).

Was Williams just half assing it? Perhaps or the coach just wanted to light a fire under what was reported to be a bad practice for the offense. I just hope its not a last and only resort to bad technique. Maybe Justin can comment on it from being at pracitce.

I was referring to the Williams play with my comment. Moore is just a different case altogether. It's form, it's mental (at this point), and I think frustration as it's not clicking for him so he's afraid of failing yet again. Would someone like Lofton or Jordy or someone who has had success in the Packer org as a WR be able to help him one-on-one? Perhaps that gets through to him? I don't know. He may very well be a case of someone who will thrive elsewhere because he'll simply get a coach where it clicks what is said/taught to him.

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I was referring to the Williams play with my comment. Moore is just a different case altogether. It's form, it's mental (at this point), and I think frustration as it's not clicking for him so he's afraid of failing yet again. Would someone like Lofton or Jordy or someone who has had success in the Packer org as a WR be able to help him one-on-one? Perhaps that gets through to him? I don't know. He may very well be a case of someone who will thrive elsewhere because he'll simply get a coach where it clicks what is said/taught to him.

Yeah, I was too, Moore just a counter example where the yelling and lack of reps might cause a problem. But we don't know if Williams overall performance was a factor or not in the shout out.

Moore has probably always had the underlying issue and not performing well (possibly starting with something unrelated like routes or playbook) has just aggravated it and made it harder to dig himself out.

Its weird, no matter what coaches tell you, WR (and especially) TE and RB catch a lot of body balls. There are a lot of ways to skin that cat, but its hard to teach at this level. In Willis Adams last year or two, the coaching staff gave up trying to get him to be a hand catcher and said do it however it works for you. Did not help at that point. It is possible to listen to your coaches too closely.

So it could be a multi-step problem and the only way I know to solve that (and its unrelated to football) is to go back to the basics and rebuild how you think about getting each step done. And dump whatever advice doesn't work from the algorithm. Lofton or Nelson might help if they get him unstuck, but its a crap shoot.

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@JimOwczarski

The #Packers and Kendall Donnerson have indeed parted ways w/ an injury settlement. Though Donnerson could return, the move is the first pick Brian Gutekunst has cut ties with. Donnerson was waived/injured Aug. 8 but wasn’t claimed so had reverted to team’s IR.
@RobDemovsky
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Last public practice:

Rodgers is pads and practicing

@TomSilverstein
RB Jamaal Williams getting his first team reps in opening period (not competitive as I said before, more jog through).

@JimOwczarski
#Packers did not practice list:
Kevin King, Kabion Ento (hammy)
Ka’Dar Hollman (stinger)
Oren Burks (chest)
Danny Vitale (calf)
Jimmy Graham (finger)
Jace Sternberger (concussion)
Reggie Gilbert (knee)
Greg Roberts, Ibraheim Campbell (PUP list)

@ByRyanWood
#Packers WR Trevor Davis making up for lost time. Caught a 5-yard pass from Kizer on 3-4. Later, ended team drill with a 40-yard bomb from Tim Boyle against Chandon Sullivan and Will Redmond, despite PI from Sullivan. When he’s been healthy, Davis has been quite good in camp.

NO MATTER WHICH DECISION THEY MAKE WITH DAVIS, IT WILL NOT WORK OUT AND BOTH OPTIONS WILL GET HURT

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JONES IS BACK?!

@ByRyanWood
Top of #Packers’ running back rotation going through individual drills. Aaron Jones and Jamaal Williams hitting the dummy.

[mraynrand]

JONES IS BACK?!

@ByRyanWood
Top of #Packers’ running back rotation going through individual drills. Aaron Jones and Jamaal Williams hitting the dummy.

BURKS IS BACK?!

[Rutnstrut]

BURKS IS BACK?!

My first thought was they brought stubby back.

[run pMc]

OK, but that is a real individual issue. I don't think Moore is lazy, I think he has a real, physical issue with proper hand usage/placement if Lofton wasn't just blowing smoke. Sending him off the field for fewer reps doesn't help (just a hypothetical case).

Was Williams just half assing it? Perhaps or the coach just wanted to light a fire under what was reported to be a bad practice for the offense. I just hope its not a last and only resort to bad technique. Maybe Justin can comment on it from being at pracitce.

Have to dig around for it, but I thought MLF pulled D.Williams & put him back in later and he did fine, picking up a blitz nicely and then making some other play, so I took it as MLF making a point and Williams showing he's coachable. Some players don't take well to getting yanked or yelled at, others do. I suspect Moore is more in the former category...seems like his issues are in his head.

[Fritz]

BURKS IS BACK?!

No, dummy, it's Lamont.

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@ChrisBurke02
When did the idea of “its too hot to practice” enter into American culture? ��*♂️

THIS IS A MAN WHO HAS NOT SUFFERED FROM HEAT STROKE WHILE PRACTICING. REASONABLE PRECAUTIONS WOULD OBVIATE THE NEED FOR THIS BUT SOME COACHES DON'T BELIEVE IN THOSE. I AM OLD ENOUGH TO REMEMBER BEING TOLD NOT TO DRINK ONE FUNNEL CUP OF WATER IN THE MIDDLE OF PRACTICE

@ChrisBurke02
So in Texas it's really only during Football in August is when we see. Maximum heat exposer. Never seen no practice at all but more of amount of time in the heat.

@ChrisBurke02
I get it that we have to be careful and take precautions but the idea of canceling practice when it’s 90 degrees is not helpful for kids long term IMO

@tx_pierce
Dont disagree. I have never seen a canceled practice. That's extreme. And the heat exposure rules are heat over 100°

@tx_pierce
Burke. Are you watching the Rangers Angels game. Lol. They are saying Pitchers should warm up inside the cage and not outside at Arlington bc its "too hot" lol

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CAMP LEG HITS 55 YARDER IN PRACTICE

https://twitter.com/Eagles/status/1163933179218145283

[RashanGary]

Hammys don’t typically last more than six weeks. But I was at practice the day after king injured his and he was noticeably limping. That suggests a somewhat severe hamstring strain. I don’t expect him back for six weeks from the onset of injury. September 15th against Vikings is my guess.

Hollman should be back.

So lining up against Chicago, gotta expect its Alexander and Tony Brown. Williams nickel. Greene dime/big nickel. Hollman is first guy off bench in case of injury.


It’s not a horrible group, but King sure does make it better. Hopefully the hammy doesn’t go too long.

[RashanGary]

CAMP LEG HITS 55 YARDER IN PRACTICE

https://twitter.com/Eagles/status/1163933179218145283

Holy shit. Nice.

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Hammys don’t typically last more than six weeks. But I was at practice the day after king injured his and he was noticeably limping. That suggests a somewhat severe hamstring strain. I don’t expect him back for six weeks from the onset of injury. September 15th against Vikings is my guess.

Hollman should be back.

So lining up against Chicago, gotta expect its Alexander and Tony Brown. Williams nickel. Greene dime/big nickel. Hollman is first guy off bench in case of injury.


It’s not a horrible group, but King sure does make it better. Hopefully the hammy doesn’t go too long.

Williams is #1 outside with King out. Brown is outside in nickel and presumably dime.