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  • #16
    Secondary kind of reminds me of 2010. Speed and youth to cover the big outside areas and experience and savvy to handle the short area and grey area inside. The inside guys will also be masking blitz’s and coverages. So like i said, it’s a good mix of the right talents in the right spots.

    Boundary youth and speed
    Interior savvy and experience
    Brute trench force

    It’s a nice mix.
    Last edited by RashanGary; 07-07-2019, 09:02 PM.
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    • #17
      Why was slow Larry Fitzgerald a more successful WR than fast Jeff Janis, radagast?

      Your speed thing sounds good coming out and when you pat yourself on the back for knowing so much, but it’s not working in real life so you have exactly zero people convinced.
      Last edited by RashanGary; 07-07-2019, 08:59 PM.
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      • #18
        Originally posted by JustinHarrell View Post
        Why was slow Larry Fitzgerald a more successful WR than fast Jeff Janis, radagast?

        Your speed thing sounds good coming out and when you pat yourself on the back for knowing so much, but it’s not working in real life so you have exactly zero people convinced.
        There are not enough posters to get a true variety of opinions. Players like Fitzgerald are blessed with great coordination and yes quickness. Yet why do we say that this or that player has lost a half or full step? Speed does matter and so does quickness, but many a skilled player has been cut because another equally skilled player ran faster. I know that speed is a strong asset in football as well as in many other sports too.

        As for patting myself on the back, that's not so. I simply try to post the best argument I can. As for support, this is the low season for posting to this forum.
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        • #19
          Originally posted by Radagast View Post
          Most NFL CBs are quick, speed often is the best way to gain separation from them. Also, being quick is an asset for a Kick returner that needs to quickly change direction, but I've seen quick/sure handed players get run down from behind because they were slow. Don't confuse the desire for quickness with the need for speed.

          IMO, a LB running to stop a RB from turning the corner is a matter of speed , not quickness. If that RB were to change direction to avoid the LB, then the LB would need quickness to also change his direction and tackle the RB. Being quick requires processing a thought into action, while speed requires less brain power. I value both, but just being quick can be not enough when matched against someone with speed too.

          As for out of shape players, it is not often they are seen or tolerated by teams.Most NFL locker rooms look like a commercial for Golds Gym.

          Still trouble with basic reading comprehension?

          A common mistake, especially outside the skill positions, is to confuse a desire for speed for a desire for quickness.
          Quickness is still much more necessary for an ILB than flat out 40 speed, as reaction time and their initial first step will get you to a corner faster than a 40 time. However, teams increasingly want both, especially with one of the ILB positions. If speed overcame the need for recognitions and quickness, then Oren Burks or James Jones would be in the Pro Bowl.
          Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.

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          • #20
            In football, as in most sports, players are at top speed only infrequently. Therefore, it is only infrequently that elite speed makes a real difference. On the other hand, elite quickness (both physical and mental) can be a difference maker during most plays.

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            • #21
              Sam shields, Nick Collins, Greg Jennings and Jordy Nelson are some fast players who’s speed helped us win a SB.

              I hope Alexander, King, Savage and MVS do the same for us!
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              • #22
                In also happy to have the quality players who are less fast like Charles Woodson after 30, James Jones, Driver late in his career, Adrian Amos, Blake Martinez, Davante Adams and Aaron Jones.

                I appreciate all sorts of talent.
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                • #23
                  There was this kid on my high school track team who took speed before running distance races. He would finish near the back of the pack every time, but he was always convinced he'd won the race.
                  "Never, never ever support a punk like mraynrand. Rather be as I am and feel real sympathy for his sickness." - Woodbuck

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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by JustinHarrell View Post
                    Why was slow Larry Fitzgerald a more successful WR than fast Jeff Janis, radagast?
                    Stubby held Janis back. After leaving the Packers, he's shown his HOF mettle.
                    "Never, never ever support a punk like mraynrand. Rather be as I am and feel real sympathy for his sickness." - Woodbuck

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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by pbmax View Post
                      If speed overcame the need for recognitions and quickness, then Oren Burks or James Jones would be in the Pro Bowl.
                      I swear to you Burks is not finished yet.
                      "Never, never ever support a punk like mraynrand. Rather be as I am and feel real sympathy for his sickness." - Woodbuck

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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by JustinHarrell View Post
                        Boundary youth and speed
                        Interior savvy and experience
                        Brute trench force

                        It’s a nice mix.

                        Brute Trench Force. That's a keeper.
                        "Never, never ever support a punk like mraynrand. Rather be as I am and feel real sympathy for his sickness." - Woodbuck

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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by mraynrand View Post
                          There was this kid on my high school track team who took speed before running distance races. He would finish near the back of the pack every time, but he was always convinced he'd won the race.
                          He needed medication. He was just taking the wrong kind.
                          Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.

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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by mraynrand View Post
                            I swear to you Burks is not finished yet.
                            Pretty sure James Jones is though.

                            Meant Josh Jones.

                            I think.
                            Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.

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                            • #29
                              Originally posted by JustinHarrell View Post
                              Why was slow Larry Fitzgerald a more successful WR than fast Jeff Janis, radagast?
                              Larry Fitzgerald was not slow for most of his career. Dude is 6'3" and ran a 4.48 40. Dude was big and fast for most of his career.
                              "There's a lot of interest in the draft. It's great. But quite frankly, most of the people that are commenting on it don't know anything about what they are talking about."--Ted Thompson

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                              • #30
                                Originally posted by HarveyWallbangers View Post
                                Larry Fitzgerald was not slow for most of his career. Dude is 6'3" and ran a 4.48 40. Dude was big and fast for most of his career.
                                My compliments to you. Would you be willing to respond to the 1st post of this thread. Too many take a threads original concept and divert it to suit their unfocused thoughts. You however zeroed in on Fitzgerald and posted in a clear and factually concise manner. If you could use that skill to refocus this thread that would be awesome and more than I can manage.

                                Thank you again for your post and I look forward to reading more.
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